FFL Sentimentalist at ChristChurch(NZ) Smashed

Manikar Das Brahmachari “feel strongly” i have no feeling against FFL nor for FFL. i only repeat what SP said about mundane welfare passing off as vaishnavism. which is FFL.read all the FFL arguments here. FFL was destroyed and defeated by devotees on this article where your BIG LEADER Priyavrata Das came out chest thumping and was totally silenced. www.dandavats.com/?p=9969
why aer you ppl not giving up ur sentiments, i dont know. and u are supposed to be grown men and women…the prasadam distribution projects which are presented as “feed the poor”, which are not accompanied by chanting the holy name and are obviously meant for easy funds collection. The worst of all is that such a presentation of our movement in public would put us down on mundane welfare platform, which is obviously something that Srila Prabhupada did not want, as quoted in SSR chapter. Altruism: Temporary and Eternal. Obviously that Srila Prabhupada new the “opportunity” to get good name for the society, support from “many important men”, but he flatly refuse. Why? It is clear that he did not want to present his movement as another mundane welfare society. Technically called “karma”. He did not want to mix karma into pure bhakti, for this is the ideal jïäna-karmädy-anävåtam.

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Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das Brahmachari Give ref. in vedabase or a SP disciple book where the allgedly correct past-time you quote ‘SP saw poor kids fighting over scraps of food’ etc is mentioned. show me the exact place where that past time is mentioned. 
it is just a myth cooked by most probably Mukunda Goswami who destroyed SP’s mission by introducing FFL, the ONLY prasadam nonsense
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Food For Life Christchurch-official
Food For Life Christchurch-official Humbly except my obeisances, I am sorry you feel so strongly about this Manikar Das Brahmachari. But I still do not see how giving out Prasadam (under what ever name) could be considered nonsense. As for H.H Mukunda Goswami, I have no right to comment on such an advanced Spiritual Master and can only think that even Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu had his critics, and he was an incarnation of Lord Krishna himself. 
The one main instruction I do believe,handed down to Srila Prabhupada from his Spiritual Master and in turn passed down to his own Deciples,was to give Krishna Consciousness to all the fallen souls in this age of Kali,was it not?
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Manikar Das Brahmachari it makes our movement look like a mundane social welfare organzation, and the mood of SP get corruptedpls hear details on this in 5 lectures given by Jayadvaita swami

links are here in this
https://vediciskcon.wordpress.com/…/food-for-life…/

Manikar Das Brahmachari sure feed the people in a 10 mil rad. but does this give u the license to do the prasadam distribution without kirtan/katha? have a kirtan and distribute prasadam as you proceed through the city, what is the harm?

Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das Brahmachari Give ref. in vedabase or a SP disciple book where the allgedly correct past-time you quote ‘SP saw poor kids fighting over scraps of food’ etc is mentioned. show me the exact place where that past time is mentioned. 
it is just a myth cooked by most probably Mukunda Goswami who destroyed SP’s mission by introducing FFL, the ONLY prasadam nonsense
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Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das Brahmachari I hope that u really are not the regular nonsense ONLY prasadam distribution-project that goes under the title FFL. I hope u are not lying. Food For Life Christchurch-official I hope u do kirtan all the time and along with every kirtan run u distribute prasadam
when your tag line is “Serving Karma-free Meals” that does not say it is Krsna prasadam.
So i hope this is not a cheating attempt here by you
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Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das Brahmachari i did not say anything i just repeated Jadadvaita Swami’s words and Basu Ghosh DAs’ wordsBasu Ghosh Prabhu https://youtu.be/SAEwzsBWVn4
Jayadvaita Maharaj said, “To clarify: I don’t doubt that what Vaiyasaki Prabhu wrote is true. That is, I assume he has accurately conveyed what Priyavrata Prabhu told him.
I also find it understandable that Priyavrata Prabhu may have gotten the impression that I was backing off from what I had said in my “Food for Death” course. When I met him, I was not in a mood to be confrontational, I expressed some appreciation for his personal endeavors to share Krsna consciousness with a niche market of vegans and vegetarian activists, and I offered that in the future I wouldn’t use the title “Food for Death.”
That said: I stand behind the contents of my “Food for Death” course one hundred percent.
I believe that Srila Prabhupada’s teachings about mundane welfare work, “poor feeding,” and so on are clear, strong, and consistent and that the course represents them accurately.
For that matter, I believe that advocates of “Food for Life” often pull his words out of context in order to justify ways of prasadam distribution His Divine Grace would disapprove of and in fact, when present, did disapprove of.
And I believe that much (perhaps even most) of what goes on under the banner of “Food for Life” runs directly against what Srila Prabhupada instructed.
Were I to give the course today, I would if anything speak even more strongly. Since I last gave the course, additional evidence from Srila Prabhupada has come my way that I would certainly offer.
(Do you know, for example, why the building built for public prasadam distribution near the roadside in Mayapur was outfitted with turnstiles? I always thought it was to prevent crowds from rushing in. No, says Madhusevita Prabhu. It was because Srila Prabhupada ordered that people should be checked on the way out to make sure they didn’t bring any prasadam out with them. “They will mix it with their fish,” Srila Prabhupada said, “and then it will be aparadha.” Madhusevita Prabhu, a brahmacari in Mayapur at the time, was among those given the responsibility to do the checking.)
I would also cite newer examples of how ISKCON distributes prasadam in ways exactly contrary to Srila Prabhupada’s instructions. (The flagship temple in one country I visit drops the food off at schools and orphanages, to be distributed however the staff they drop it with see fit. No kirtana, no preaching. Just dump the prasadam and go.)
My revered spiritual master was bold, strong, and uncompromising in his teachings, and to see his Society leave behind that spirit of uncompromising boldness and abandon or distort those teachings for the sake of collecting money and winning public acclaim saddens me.
Vaiyasaki Prabhu’s text signals to me that my words to Priyavrata Prabhu about “Food for Life” seem to have been misunderstood. Accordingly, with apologies to Priyavrata Prabhu, I withdraw my offer to hold back from using the title “Food for Death.” I think the title is right on, and I fully stand behind both the title and the course.”

 

Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das Brahmachari Prabhupada regarded Food For Life as nonsense. Please stop this project and do kirtan and distribute prasadam along with kirtan and not without! 
Read more here
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Food For Life Christchurch-official
Food For Life Christchurch-official Hare Krishna Manikar Das Brahmachari. Thank you for the thoughtful comments. But Prabhupada instructed his deciples to distribute Prasadam,did he not? After seeing some village children fighting over food scraps with dogs. After witnessing this,did he not say that no one in a ten mile radius of an Iskcon Temple shall go hungry? Please correct me if that is wrong. And did he not,also show by example, the great quality of tolerance. Why would you feel so compelled to give such a negitive public statement regarding the distribution of Prasadam? We are all servants of the servant of the servant, and there were a small core group of Devotee’s who gave their time and energy (for love and not money) To serve nutritious vegetarian Prasadam to fellow fallen souls in the age of Kali. So please tell me how this could considered nonsense? And as for serving Prasadam without Kirtan, you need (in the case of Food For Life Christchurch) do a little more research, for we also included Kirtan as well as distribution of Prasadam and on two of these occasions, were blessed to have H.H Janananda Swami lead these Kirtans. So once again, thank you for the comment. Hare Krishna.
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Elena Bushnell
Elena Bushnell As well as distribution of Srila Prabhupadas books would go on regularly and questions – answers about our philosophy because many people were sincerely interested
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Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das Brahmachari INTERESTING…So you say that you “do accompany kirtan with prasadam distribution”.
But why don’t you simply call it “prasadam for life” program.
Why would you pick this name, FFL, which the all iskcon knows indicated ONLY PRASADAM and no kirtan.

That is what FFL means.
So may you u are trying to cheat us all by including 1 or 2 kirtans per year along with your ONLY prasadam distribution runs.
If you are so VERY sincere just drop the name FFL.
So before you ask me to do my homework pls do your own and study what FFL in general stands for.
It is like wearing Sankara’s talik and doing KC preaching. the insignia denotes a mayavadi. just like the project title FFL denotes ONLY PRASADAM
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  1. ** Hare Krsna **
    Morning Walk
    December 16,
    1973, Los
    Angeles:
    Karandhara: No, they say if we
    find poor and starving people,
    we must go and feed them.
    Prabhupada: So you feed them. But we also feed them. But we feed them with Krsna prasadam. That is the difference. You do this. That will be actually beneficial. By distributing Krsna’s prasadam, you will be benefited, they will be benefited.
    Morning Walk
    December 5,
    1976,
    Hyderabad:
    Prabhupada: Yes, poor, hungry, come. We can give you food. We are giving, already. Show the pictures. You have not seen the pictures of Māyāpura, how two thousand, three thousand people we are giving.
    Letter to Giriraja — Tokyo 23 April, 1972: This food distribution program is to be done very, very nicely as I have already written in my last letter. Generally people make a plea that why are there so many hungry and naked. So we invite all hungry and naked people to come to us and we will give them food and clothing and Krishna consciousness as well. This will attract the general public and there will never be any shortage of food-stuffs, so continue regularly. In Bombay there are many generous persons who like food distribution programs, and actually, our temple should be the via media for feeding the poor with food and spiritual knowledge. Our Bombay program should be based on giving Krishna consciousness through the English medium and distribution of prasadam without any discrimination. This will enhance our prestige and will accelerate our spiritual life as well.
    Srila Prabhupada Letter to Satyahit — Vrindaban 16 March, 1974: Now I am especially concerned to distribute grains, rice, wheat in the form of dahl and rice prasadam to hungry people all over India. The people here are very disturbed because, partly due to the punishment of Nature, and partly due to the mismanagement of the demon class of men, food is not available. If the people do not even have sufficient food they will not even be able to receive spiritual instructions. So I am hopeful that if we can widely distribute free foodstuffs to the people of India, by giving it out at our centers as well as by travelling parties to villages, we will win over the whole country and the whole world by this activity on Krsna’s behalf.
    Srila Prabhupada Letter to Bhagavan — Honolulu 12 May, 1972: We need immediately some cars and vans. I was just talking with Goursundar how this can be done. I think Scindia has got ships to Detroit, so if you can find this out I can arrange for some shipping to India. You can contact Tamal Krishna in Mayapur for getting photos and information from him about our food-distribution program there and how we are feeding the needy persons in that area daily not less than 2000 persons. The USA government is giving us free foodstuffs and grains for distribution, so why such big motorcar companies should not also help if your government is agreeable?
    Srimad-Bhagavatam 5.19.24, Purport: The Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement has established its center in Māyāpur, the birthsite of Lord Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, to give men the great opportunity to go there and perform a constant festival of saṅkīrtana-yajña, as recommended herein (yajñeśa-makhā mahotsavāḥ) and to distribute prasāda to millions of hungry people hankering for spiritual emancipation. This is the mission of the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement.
    Conversation
    January 13,
    1977,
    Allahabad:
    Prabhupada:In all our temples the prasada distribution should be so random (?), that within ten miles nobody should remain hungry. There are many persons in India, they are half time hungry. So if you distribute prasadam, “Come over here. You are hungry, take prasadam. If I cannot supply daily, I’ll supply at least two days, three days weekly.” And they’re coming. You have seen Mayapur. A big prasada distribution hall. Regular two thousands are coming. And Hindu, Muslim, they’re sitting down.
    Hari-sauri: Is there any reason
    why we are just distribute on a
    Saturday and Sunday?
    Prabhupada: Oh, we can
    distribute every day.
    Hari-sauri: Let
    them come every
    day.
    Prabhupada: Yes.
    Srila Prabhupada
    Lilamrta Vol. 6
    pg. 232:
    Srila Prabhupada Letter To all ISKCON
    Temple Presidents: Let the whole world
    come. We can feed them.
    All glories to sri sri
    guru and Gauranga!
    ** Hare Krsna **

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    1. “We invite all hungry people “…, “let the whole world come”…

      The cheating rascaldom projects of the deviant gurus are called food for life and free meals and not Hare Krishna prasadam 

      Right?

      That’s not the instruction. Distribute prasadam as prasadam not mundane welfare AT the poor areas.

      Tell this to your philosophically deviant leader.

      Ask him to read the whole compilation here. 

      https://vediciskcon.wordpress.com/2017/02/28/food-for-life-against-prabhupadas-teachings/

      Ty for quoting sp.

      But dont quote like a half brained rascal. Like the rascals who quote Sp’s calling women as prabhu and make it sound ok.

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