Kuli Liberals Supports Fashion Show & Gets Smashed

Mahadev Robert Sean Ferry ·

Since when were fashion shows otherwise known as “illicit sex” shows?It sounds like she was just present for it too. 

Prabhupada walked around to many places preaching. Places much more disturbing than a fashion show.

Jesus Christ’s purest disciple was a prostitute, whom He spent a lot of time with.

When really, we are all having some perverted sex (attraction) here in this world.

For instance, finding fault in others and floating around sores like a fly, instead of attaining the nectar, and avoiding the thorns, like the honeybee, is a sex desire and can possible be spiritually stunting.

Let’s say she is poisoning the movement… wouldn’t the best reaction to that be to approach her and preach to/with her? 

I know one of the worst reactions would be to publicly expand the poison and share these things. Thus poisoning the movement even further.

 

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Manikar Das Brahmachari Mahadev Robert Sean Ferry Any acharya/SP organized fashion shows in any Krsna temple?
what type of a devotee are you?
if u are such a person who can’t see the wrong in fashion shows then ur idiotic comments are of no use to this post.
read SP’s books and take diskha in iskcon u gurukuli and then we will talk.no. you are not a part of the movement, any fool with such long hair has nothing to do with the Krsna Conscious movement!

but ur are finding fault in me!!! 
“For instance, finding fault in others and floating around sores like a fly, instead of attaining the nectar,”

yes stop poisoning the movement further than me “poisoning the movement” by adding more poison of criticism specificallu against me, “the poisoner of the movement” ok?
“Thus poisoning the movement even further.”

why did u not privately message me ? if u are against publicly sharing “these things”?
“wouldn’t the best reaction to that be to approach her and preach to/with her? “
“I know one of the worst reactions would be to publicly expand the poison and share these things.”

you are criticizing my public expose by publicly “exposing me”. why not privately “approach me and preach to/with me” ?

ur arguments are idiotic from all angles.
dont comment on these posts pls.

i know ex-kulis hate iskcon and SP but u love Doe Zantamata
so u wont judge me when i say these things against u, who is not a follower of SP

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212189066427587&set=a.10201135960906857.1073741824.1404548066&type=3

watch young women in fashion shows and go to where ever ur fake bhakti takes u. atleast dont open ur mouth and spread such nonsense in iskcon.

Hridayananda Goswami’s ‘dhoti discomfort’ argument defeated by BVPS

“Dhotis are not comfortable”, yet another baseless argument given by our modern practical fellow iskcon members, by Hridayananda Maharaj and Krishna West, his “sinister cult” (as he once jokingly referred to). The natural question of ‘culture versus comfort’ has been answered by Bhakti Vidya Purna Maharaj in his confident style of presenting the siddhanta in a logical way.

Bhakti Charu Maharaj Calls Hridayananda Maharaj A Deviant

Letter PAMHO:26245692 (214 lines) From: Internet: “Bhakti Charu Swami” <bhakti.charu.swami@gmail.com> Date: 25-Mar-14 08:18 (13:48 +0530) To: “Krishna Kirti Das” <krishnakirti@gmail.com> Cc: GBC Discussions [25476] Cc: IIAC (ISKCON India Advisory Committee) [3987] Cc: ISKCON India (news & discussion) [10270] Cc: Basu Ghosh (das) ACBSP (Baroda – IN) [162502] (received: 25-Mar-14 11:33) Reference: Text PAMHO:26245281 by Internet: Krishna Kirti Das Subject: Re: HH Hridayananda Goswami, Krishna West, and Consequentialism ———————————————————— Dear Krishna Kirti Prabhu,
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Thank you very much for your brilliant analysis of Hridayananda Dasa Goswami’s deviation. As far as I am concerned, I see his action as another attack of Kali on Srila Prabhupada’s ISKCON.
I want to express my heartfelt gratitude to you for taking this stand to defend our movement. Srila Prabhupada will indeed be very pleased with you.
Your servant,
Bhakti Charu Swami
On 25 March 2014 11:25, Krishna Kirti Das <krishnakirti@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Devotees, please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila > Prabhupada. > > > Hridayananda Maharaja is a devotee who is widely revered and dear to many > throughout ISKCON, but he has also said and done many controversial things > over the years that have been cause for concern. Although the typical > response to Maharaja’s controversial statements and actions has been to > treat them as separate, one-off events without relation to each other, they > are instead deeply connected by a moral philosophy called > “consequentialism.” (In this regard, I have attached a paper that examines > this issue in depth. One version is a PDF document, and the other is a Word > document.) > > > As Maharaja explains in his 2005 paper titled “Vaisnava Moral Theology and > Homosexuality,”< > http://acharyadeva.com/…/item/moral-theology-homosexuality > >consequentialism > seeks “morality primarily in the consequences of acts” and > “argues that moral behavior must produce good consequences.” > Consequentialism is plainly operative in some of his more controversial > statements: > > > 1. “In fact, he [Yudhisthira] acts so badly that he practically drops > from the list of heroes in the rest of the Mahabharata. He is officially > Dharma-raja, but no one, including Draupadi, respects him anymore. . . > . I > don’t believe this is the real Dharma-raja.” > (AskAcharyadeva.com< > http://askacharyadeva.wordpress.com/…/infallibility-of…/ > >) > This is, however, a pastime that Srila Prabhupada himself accepts and > defends in many places, as do a number of other acharyas in our > disciplic > succession.< > http://www.krishnaeastandwest.com/…/the_real_dharmarja_p ublic_version.pdf > > > 2. After having read the above statement, a devotee > asks< > http://askacharyadeva.wordpress.com/…/infallibility-of…/ > >”Are > you not worried that by contradicting Srila Prabhupada’s statements, > the devotees may lose their faith in Srila Prabhupada?” To which > Maharaja > answers, “Prabhupada emphatically taught that the Guru’s teachings are > infallible because the Guru is simply repeating Shastra. Prabhupada > made it > very clear that a Guru is not infallible when not repeating Shastra.” > But > if Srila Prabhupada is fallible in his own books, how could anything > else > he says in them be trusted?

(Some) Prostitutes in Iskcon Wear Prada

Devotees wear fully covered sarees and dhoti-kurtas. Prostitutes wear Prada! Idiots who have not read one line of Prabhupada’s books think – devotees wear prada.

But this is our GBC which thinks that it is ok to show the body and increase the lust of it’s members. This article was featured on a GBC funded website. That is to says our hard earned book distribution money has gone into promoting half naked clothes and prostitution of young girls in the name of KrishnaBhakti

Why have none of the acharyas organized a vaishnava vedic fashion show?
Jiva Goswami organized a fashion show?? Did he?
Why is this rascaldom going on WITH OUR MONEY?
I mean, i am not against you making your daughter or wife a public prostitute, do it if it makes you happy but please don’t advertise it under iskcon’s name because then it affects me and the rest of us varna ashrama promoters. Also please make your daughter or wife a prostitute with your own money not on a GBC funded website which indirectly draws its funds from OUR DONATIONS!

http://iskconnews.org/the-devotee-wears-prada,5882/

“stepping forward as designers, contributing to the cultural revolution Srila Prabhupada encouraged.”
These clothes for prostitutes is the “cultural revolution SP encouraged” ?

Stupid characterless western yavana woman(Rachel Ward) gets smashed by a strong devotee (Philip Davies) quoting Prabhupada’s words.

The discussion was on whether devotee girls should have fashion shows or not. Phillip was against the notion.

Rachel Ward • 7 days ago
What a great way to bring the devotional culture from the temples into the mainstream. People ask me all the time where they can get skirts like mine. It’s nice to tell them, and then devotee families benefit financially. It’s also nice that my children aren’t limited to the same tired old saris and gopi skirts. They have devotional clothing that fits their fashion sense. Win.
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Phillip Davies Rachel Ward • 6 days ago
fashion sense = vanity is, in a simple way, it is to fulfill material enjoyment. I understand that young devotees will like to experiment with their clothes, My original comment was because of the pictures in the article which did not feature children.
Pradyumna Das

Rachel Ward Phillip Davies • 4 days ago
Respectfully, all of the pictures in the article feature someone’s children. They have grown up in the movement and developed their own style. The next generation won’t be like the last. We can allow the sastra to remain unchanged, but the movement will die if the next generation is not enlivened and more people are not attracted.
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Phillip Davies Rachel Ward • 4 days ago
the people in the particular picture I have in mind are not children they may have been born into a family of devotees (very fortunate) , It does not change the fact that, The mind is the distraction, it dwells upon the sense objects, the nice clothes, how someone else percieves them. it is a difficult process if one makes it so by allowing these simple pleasures to creep in, But Lord Krishna assure Arjuna ” asam svayam maha baho…” gita, it is possible to control the restless mind with suitable practice and detachment”” . we can not dilute the process it is what it is. we can make it hard for ourselves, or relatively easy (relatively speaking, every day be fixed)
Pradyumna Das
Phillip Davies • 7 days ago
I cant help but think this is, very much in the Bodily concept, the I am this body idea, that we are supposed to be trying to get beyond. we dress the deity to the best of our ability, we dress ourselves modestly to help us get beyond the bodily concept. Haribol, pradyumna das
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Rachel Ward Phillip Davies • 7 days ago
Our bodies require clothing. It may as well be clothing that we like. The clothing that these devotees design is modest and it is designed like traditional devotional clothing. The colors and patterns are modern.

Phillip Davies Rachel Ward • 6 days ago
some of the pictures, were not very modest, clothing that we like is a distraction, clothing is to cover ones nakedness, like or dislike is irrelevant it is sense gratification.
Pradyumna das
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Rachel Ward Phillip Davies • 6 days ago
Hmmm. Are you saying that you don’t have a favorite color? You don’t choose your clothing or your household items in colors that please you? What about your japa bag? Do you like the color? Is it plain or does it have decoration? Many devotees choose decorated japa bags to attract them to them. Is that not the point? We become attracted by material things and we develop the taste for the nectar over time.

Phillip Davies Rachel Ward • 4 days ago
attraction to the material, is a distraction, decoration of the body is a distraction, the body and its (pseudo) pleasure is a distraction. We try to be devotees, we live in a Karmi world, we do our best not to be part of it, we eat simple food wear simple clothes. BUT, if something that you do fixes your mind upon Krishna then do it, never forget Krishna, always remember Krishna.
YS, Pradyumna Das