Reply to Vaiyaski Prabhu (going on at the Srila Prabhupada Disciples reunion conference here on FB)
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Vaiyasaki Das: Can anyone enlighten this sanga why Jahnava Mata Iswari, Gangamata Goswamini, and Hemalata Thakurani were diska gurus in our Gaudiya Vaishnava parampara and who also had male disciples?
Basu Ghosh Das: What kind of diksha gurus where the above mentioned lady devotees, Vaiyasaki Das Prabhu? Did they confer the sacred thread to other ladies? I very much doubt it, because even in the caste goswami families – their descendants – even today ladies do NOT wear the sacred thread.
The diksha introduced by Srila Bhaktisiddanta Saraswati Thakur and our Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada incorporated the vedic upanayanam. Tradition is that women DO NOT receive it.
Prabhupada and Srila Bhaktisiddhanta before him DID NOT confer it to ladies.
Read the purport of Prabhupada copied herein above, again.
Therein Prabhupada wrote that women can be shiksha gurus (and padapradarshak gurus) and that the shiksha guru and the diksha guru are the same! But he forbid — not only in this purport, but then refer to the purport of his to Bhagavad-gita 16.7 — women from being traditional diksha gurus.
Prabhupada never made even ONE woman a TP or GBC. The duties of diksha guru are outside the purview of stridharma – the duties of women.
Such is the ignorance that someone wrote to me that Prabhupada never talked about or taught “stridharma”!
But it’s right there in the Bhagavatam 1.9.27 – IN THE VERSE ITSELF.
Prabhu, you are an intelligent person. Then why fall into the trap of the Western, leftist, liberal, egalitarian, equal rights ethos that is so so so politically correct in the West, amongst our fellow mlecchas and yavanas, but is clearly in contradiction to what Prabhupada, our previous acharyas, and vedic culture and tradition teach?