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Prabhupada Silences Envious Brother, Bhakti Pramode Puri Maharaja

Letter to Bhakti Pramode Puri Maharaj

September 07, 1975

Tridanda Swami
Sri Bhakti Pramode Puri
Sri Ananta Basudev Sri Mandir
P.O. Kalna, Dt. Burdwan

Dear Bhakti Pramode Puri Maharaj:

Please accept my obeisances. I am in due receipt of your letter dated August 27, 1975 and have noted the contents. Yes, it is Bhagavan’s special mercy upon me that I am getting such immense wealth. You will be pleased to know that my books are selling to the extent of one million of dollars per month. But this money is coming from the mlecchas and yavanas. That is the difficulty. This money is not coming from the brahmanas. Therefore I am afraid to contribute to you as you request. How shall I give to you and pollute you?

They are all mlecchas, and you are a rigid brahmana, pukkha. So how will you accept it? If you like, you can hand over the management charge of your temple, and my devotees will manage.

I hope this meets you in good health.

Yours faithfully,

A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami

Gaudiya Math & its Crooked Gurus Smashed by Bhakti Vidya Purna Swami

“They have the most closed door policy amongst themselves. We are the one that’s the open ones, we are the idiots. You know what I am saying? So first let them go out there and create cooperation amongst the Gaudiya Maths. “

Prabhu: It’s a question about the relationship of ISKCON and other maths, sometimes we have…
His Holiness Bhaktividya Purna Swami Maharaja: Other maths…
Prabhu: Other organizations, spiritual organizations, who… You know, sometimes we have a very hostile relationship and there is some fear, or they say, ‘You are afraid, because… You are not being free. Why we should, you know, why we should just keep ISKCON, why we just don’t have one family? Because we all…’
HH BVPS Maharaja: Tell them, tell them, tell them… As soon as they say that, as soon as they say any of that, say, ‘Why don’t you practice what you preach?’ It says, ‘Don’t be a hypocrite and walk in here.’ It says, ‘We are doing that light years more than you, light years.’ Gaudiya Math is a generic term, but what is each one of them called? Gaudiya Math? You know, Gaudiya Saraswata Caitanya Math, Caitanya Saraswat Gaudiya Math, Gaudiya Caitanya Saraswat Mayapur Math, why? Because each, if you are a guru, you have to have your own math, your own institution. So where is their cooperation? Can Narayana Maharaja go over to Govinda Maharaja’s place and sit down and give a Bhagavatam class? You tell me.
Prabhu: Probably not.
HH BVPS Maharaja: No. And vice versa. They have the most closed door policy amongst themselves. We are the one that’s the open ones, we are the idiots. You know what I am saying? So first let them go out there and create cooperation amongst the Gaudiya Maths. When you’ve done that, then we’ll consider whether we want to be part of it or not. But first let them do that. They haven’t done it in the last 80 years. So why don’t they work out that first? Then come over here and make stupid comments like that about us. What do you mean we are not free? What do you mean? So why doesn’t he just go off, leave his acarya and go live in another math? Try that. ‘You are not free.’ ‘Well, I wouldn’t want to.’ So we don’t want it either. ‘Oh, you can’t hear from this Maharaja.’ We don’t want to hear from this Maharaja and that Maharaja, why do we need to hear from them? We have our Acarya. It’s like telling the married man, ‘Oh, you are not free, why don’t you go out with that woman or this woman?’ ‘I don’t want to, I got my wife,’ what’s the thing? You know what I am saying? It’s just foolishness. And all it is is, when their acarya dies, then you see what happens to them. Then they go off to another math. Where is their loyalty? Where is their loyalty?
So it’s like, they can say whatever they like, the point is is, we don’t come to your math and talk about our acarya and say that, ‘You know, our acarya has got it and yours doesn’t.’ So you would consider that very offensive, so why should we consider that that’s such a nice thing that you are coming to our math and doing that? So therefore don’t be a hypocrite. You want to do that, try go over to Govinda Maharaja’s math, tell them that they don’t know what they are doing and that your acarya knows what he is doing. Go ahead, go for it, let’s see what happens. It’s just nonsense what they are talking.
We’ve been living here with the Gaudiya Math forever, right? There is a formal relationship, there is some formal function, there is a formal invitation, and people formally go and formally speak, and formally take prasada, and formally leave. It’s been like that, it’s always been like that, that’s the way it is from math to math, that’s the way it is from ISKCON to these other maths, it’s always been like that. But in the West they try to make tricks.

Narayana Maharaja openly declares that Srila Prabhupada was wrong

Prabhu: Why is there a relationship like that?
HH BVPS Maharaja: Why is there a relationship like that? Ask them. Prabhupada tried really hard to work with them, he tried to get them to preach and do everything. He asked Narayana Maharaja to go with him to America. He said, ‘No, I’d rather sit here and do my bhajana.’ But now he is claiming he is the next acarya. Where is this nonsense coming from? You know what I am saying? Has any one, I just ask this one question, has any one of the Gaudiya acaryas, Gaudiya Math acaryas, taken their Bengali boys or Hindustani boys and then just themselves gone over to the West and on their own tried to do anything and preach and be successful? Not one. And who are they going to the West with and being successful with? Prabhupada’s disciples, trained by Prabhupada. And then after doing that then they criticize. What is that called? That’s called being ungrateful, so that’s not even human. So therefore why do we even have to discuss these points with them?
Those that are honest say, I heard one of the Gaudiya acaryas saying, ‘The only way that we are preaching and doing all this being successful nowadays is because of the mercy of Srila Prabhupada.’ Bas. He will say it straight and he is the head of his math, so he could say whatever he likes. He knows it, just the others aren’t, they just want to cover it. But they’ve all gone with Prabhupada’s preachers, no one else. They’ve been sitting here from since time immemorial and gone nowhere. Not that they as individuals aren’t advanced, not that they don’t have something to offer, but they are talking here organization.
So if you want to talk organization, let’s talk organization here. They are the ones that have made the rule, if you want to be an acarya, you have to open your own math. We don’t make that, therefore we have a hundred gurus working together in one mission. We don’t have a problem like that. They are the ones with a problem like that. Then like women they are trying to say it’s us. The woman does something wrong, then she blames the man, I mean, that’s the way it goes. So therefore we are not buying this, and they are going to spin-doctor this on us. You want to talk philosophy, that’s fine, you want to talk this other stupidness, then what’s the use, what’s the meaning? What’s the importance? If they are so satisfied, then be satisfied. We can go through a whole day, a week, month, years, and never even think of the Gaudiya Math and our life goes on. But they have to always talk about us. So then? Who is free and who is independent? We in no way, shape or form need them. You know what I am saying? We acknowledge that they as a bonafide institution can take people back to Godhead, we don’t have any problem with that. But that’s their business. You go out, you go take your stick and fish around in the gutter and find somebody and pull them out, then great, we are happy. That’s not a problem.
Prabhu: So it’s behavioral issue?
HH BVPS Maharaja: It’s an etiquette issue. They don’t follow etiquette, but they try to say that we are the ones that don’t know the etiquette. What do you mean? We may be rough around the edges, they don’t know, but then that makes them worse, because they supposedly know. How do you tell somebody that your acarya took you to this level, now our acarya will take you to this other level? Where in Gaudiya etiquette is that allowed? Where is that allowed? And then if you say, if somebody complains, ‘Oh, they are envious and therefore according to Krishna-bhajanamrita then you can leave the guru, it says like that,” this is nonsense. No actual Gaudiya acarya will ever do this. It’s just they don’t do this stuff, that’s what the neophytes do. I am not saying the acarya is doing it, but his neophyte disciples are doing this. Like the kids, the kids like to play the mother and father off of each other. You go to one and then you get trouble, then you go to the other and say this, and it starts the fight there? You know what I am saying? So that’s what they do. Somebody says something and then they tell that to their acarya, he makes a comment and then you tell that back, and then it creates this whole thing. What happens? We had a fine relationship way before you came along. So why you are coming in-between and messing it up?
You know the point, ‘They don’t cooperate,’ cooperate on what terms? Why don’t you take our books, go out, distribute them? That’s our terms. No, it’s all you want is that your guru can come into our math, talk and make disciples from here, that’s all, that’s what your terms are. Our terms is, you take your people, take our books and go out and distribute them. They don’t want to cooperate, they are just looking for opportunities, they are business people, they just look where is an opportunity, so they can get profit, that’s all. They are not looking really to push on mission, otherwise, here, there is plenty of people outside, there is six billion people on this planet, why bother the ones over here? How many we have? A few thousand? Like that. Go out there, there is plenty. So that’s why it’s saying, where is the potency? Where is the potency?
All of our devotees we picked up ourself from the gutter. How many have they picked up? A few they have, but in proportion I don’t think so. They are on Parikrama now, they got six hundred Western devotees, where are those six hundred from? They are not six hundred that they picked up. So what’s the credit? Okay, you got them engaged in this service again, that’s nice, that’s great. But then to say that’s because you got something better? What do you mean got something better? Let’s come back in ten years, then I want to hear people of that math say that, the Westerners. You know what I am saying? Bengalis will still be there, but I want to see if the whities are still there.
Prabhu: So we give them credit for what they do good and…?
HH BVPS Maharaja: Yeah. The point is their philosophy and our philosophy is the same. The only difference between them and us is the GBC, that’s the only difference. These other things are inconsequencial. We offer obeisances during Jaya-dhvani, they stand up, that’s the end of the world? Jaya-dhvani are offering respects to somebody. So if you do that standing up or offering obeisances, then what’s the problem? That’s not an issue. To make that an issue means you don’t know what devotional service is. Otherwise, why would you make that an issue?
Prabhu: Initiation stuff, you know?
HH BVPS Maharaja: Initiation stuff?
Prabhu: Quick initiation when somebody comes…
HH BVPS Maharaja: That’s just a matter if they want to take the karma of somebody they don’t know, hey, that’s their choice, what do we care? It says, we don’t do it, we believe in Purvaishcharya-viddhi and everything and make sure that everything all goes very pukka and everything, like that. We are following that mood of Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura. He is the one that slowed down the initiation. Him, not us. Before it was, you got first and second together, it’s diksha, it has five aspects, they came together. But seeing the need that the living entities are so conditioned by the Kali-yuga he split it into the first and second, and there was the first three and the last two, like that. That’s all.
And then they formalized this position of getting people to chant. We don’t even consider, we get people to chant and it’s like that, we don’t even consider. They have a formalization of that.
Prabhu: Formalization means…?
HH BVPS Maharaja: Formalization means…
Prabhu: No, no, I mean, how? Which way they do?
HH BVPS Maharaja: They call it something, I think, that’s your Nama-guru. Do we say that? Who gave you the Holy Name?
Prabhu: To me? Prabhupada.
HH BVPS Maharaja: Prabhupada came up and personally said, “Here, chant this mantra,” or was it bhakta, you know…
Prabhu: Someone.
HH BVPS Maharaja: Yeah, it was bhakta… Whatever was their name. So that’s the point. Who is the more, more… What do you call it?
Prabhu: Liberal?
HH BVPS Maharaja: Liberal, but also just more raganuga here? You know what I am saying? That’s the point, we are way raga beyond these guys, our organization and our everything. We don’t have a head, we just cooperate and work together. So where do you find that? Is there a head of Vraja?
Prabhu: Krishna.
HH BVPS Maharaja: I mean, there is Krishna, but does He have seniors?
Prabhu: Yes.
HH BVPS Maharaja: So technically then it’s all mixed. Is there a head of Vaikuntha?
Prabhu: Krishna, yes.
HH BVPS Maharaja: Very obvious. There is Krishna, no one is equal, no one is above Him, that’s it. Now, which of those is vaidhi and which one is raga? Vrindavana or Vaikuntha, tell me.
Prabhu: Obvious.
HH BVPS Maharaja: Obvious, okay, so, Vaikuntha is the vaidhi, and Vrindavana is the raga. Now let us look at this very carefully here. Now, we have our gurus, but they work with the GBC, no GBC is on top, there is no like that. So everybody has their position of authority, but everybody works cooperatively together. Okay? Then, let us go to the Gaudiya Math where they have one acarya and he is above everyone. Even if they have a GBC, he is still above it. So going by that, by organization, which of the two, the Vaikuntha or the Vrindavana, would you classify ISKCON? Vrindavana, right? And which would you classify the Gaudiya Math?
Prabhu: Vaikuntha.
HH BVPS Maharaja: Yes. And then they have the audacity to tell us that we are just stuck in the vaidhi. So this is the difference between the two, this is the difference between the Gaudiya Matha and us, it’s this one point. Philosophy and all that, we don’t have a difference. We are the same mission. Just they don’t accept the order of Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura to establish a GBC and just work together. Otherwise, they say they have a GBC, yeah, you have a GBC for your math with your one acarya but when another one comes up, then…? And why is it that he is not working with them? You know what I am saying? So it’s there, it’s a problem, neophyte problem. It’s not a madhyama problem.
(From His Holiness Bhaktividya Purna Swami Maharaja’s lecture on Mahabharata, questions after class, 11th March 2008, Bhaktivedanta Academy, Sri Mayapur Dhama)

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He never recommended anyone to be acarya of the Gaudiya Math. But Sridhara Maharaja is responsible for disobeying this order of Guru Maharaja, and he and others who are already dead unnecessarily thought that there must be one acarya.
So it is better not to mix with my Godbrothers very intimately because instead of inspiring our students and disciples they may sometimes pollute them. This attempt was made previously by them, especially Madhava Maharaja and Tirtha Maharaja and Bon Maharaja but somehow or other I saved the situation.
This is going on. We shall be very careful about them and not mix with them. This is my instruction to you all. They cannot help us in our movement, but they are very competent to harm our natural progress. So we must be very careful about them.
LETTER TO RUPANUGA
Tirupati 28 April, 1974
Washington D.C.
There should be no dealings with
Srila Prabhupada’s so-called godbrothers
8 November 1975
NOTICE TO ALL CENTERS
Dear President,
Prabhus, please accept my humble obeisances. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Srila Prabhupada has asked me to write to you to make it very explicit that there should be no dealings between you and Prabhupada’s so-called godbrothers. They are all jealous and are all trying to do harm to our mission and also to Srila Prabhupada. So without Srila Prabhupada’s permission, no one should correspond with any of them, and no one should have anything to do with any of them, without asking Srila Prabhupada. No one should give them any of Srila Prabhupada’s books, no one should purchase their books, no one should visit their temples without authorization. I hope this is clear. It is very important. Please instruct all your devotees regarding this. [crossed out words] And when the devotees come for the annual festival, you should also instruct them not to visit or have any dealings with any of the godbrothers. I hope this is clear and I hope this meets you in good health.
Your servant,
Brahmananda Swami
Personal Secretary to
His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada
BS/mdd

“Prabhupada is NOT the Founder of ISKCON. I am ISKCON”, Naryana Maharaja

Narayana Maharaja Mathura, October 24, 1999:

“We can glorify Swamiji, Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja. But those who are falling down, how can they glorify him? They cannot glorify him, never; they are cutting. They are establishing that he was the founder of ISKCON, but I know that he was not founder, he was one of the members of this in guru parampara. It was founded by Krishna, and first acarya was Brahma, then Narada, then Vyasa. Only he has changed the name and he has preached these things in Western countries.”

Narayana Maharaja, Murwillumbah, Australia, February 18th, 2002:

“I am the real successor of Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja, and there is no other.”

Narayana Maharaja 28th April 1999, morning speech, Caracas, Venezuela:

“Also you should know that Caitanya Mahaprabhu is the founder of ISKCON. Swamiji, AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja is one of the prominent acaryas in this line only. He is not founder.”

But Srila Prabhupada says:

Kern: The origin of the group, where…? Who was the original founder, Your Excellency? The original founder of the group?

Prabhupāda: Which group?

Kern: This group, your group, Kṛṣṇa movement.

Prabhupāda: I am the founder, I am the founder.

(Conversation with Clergymen — June 15, 1976, Detroit)

“I am the founder-acharya of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness.” (Letter to Dr. Bigelow, Allahabad, January 20th, 1971)

Srila Prabhupada Only a servant of Mahavisnu?

Narayana Maharaja Lecture, September 19th, 1994:

“Those who are not rasika Vaisnavas, they don’t know tattva, they have not gone to association with any Vaisnava…they think that to preach whole world…the name of Krishna…and to give Gita sandesha…is the whole thing. So I want to say that your Prabhupada has given these things…only these things…and not beyond these things. Then he was only the servant of Mahavisnu, not of Krishna. A strange thing… for them who are ignorant. But those who are wise and have done initiation from any rasika vaisnava, bhava bhakta of Caitanya Mahaprabhu,… Those who have given their heart to them and have realized anything…very little…they can realize these things……At first, if any temple is going on…we’ll have to clear… the ground. The thorns are there, the trees having thorns …useless…to be cut, and to give some land… But to dig and to sweep is not everything. To dig for basement of this big temple is not everything. So Swamiji has at first cleared the atmosphere…Prepared the ground…by preaching name and the sandesh of Gita…he prepared. So very important work. Without this, without this, he could not have given these things. As Caitanya Mahaprabhu first preached the whole world Krishna name, and he wanted all Vaisnavas to understand His inner mood….Otherwise everyone cannot understand…so he has done this task and it was so necessary for that world…for all world…he has done but he has not done everything …by that doing. It was only basement…Foundation.“

Self-promotion

Narayana Maharaja, Murwillumbah, Australia, February 18th, 2002:

“Your Prabhupada, Srila Swami Maharaja, only changed the name into English. He is not the founder acarya of that eternal ISKCON. I am ISKCON. I’m not different from ISKCON. I am ‘Bhaktivedanta’ [Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Gosvami Maharaja]. Like father, like son. I am the real successor of Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja, and there is no other. You should know this very openly. I am Bhaktivedanta and he is Bhaktivedanta, but he received this name after did. I’m senior to him in this regard. I’m Bhaktivedanta, and I’m also ISKCON. Don’t think that I’m out of ISKCON.”

N.M. doesn’t even agree with Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu!

Is conjugal love in separation the highest expression of bhakti?

Narayana Maharaja Sri Vraja-Mandala Parikrama, p. 45:

“Those who have not scrutinizingly studied the scripture Srimad Bhagavatam, and who have not conscientiously comprehended Sri Caitanya Caritamrita, and who have also not properly understood books like Bhakti Rasamrta Sindhu, Brhad Bhagavatamrta, Ujvala Nilamani, Krishna Karnamrta and other literatures of this nature. These people consider vipralambha, the mood of separation to be the highest level of ecstasy. Our previous acaryas also considered vipralambha to be an exalted state; but after much reflection they perceived vipralambha as a prerequisite to highlight and more fully embellish and amplify the ecstasy of reunion. If there would be only vipralambha for all of eternity what would be the use? What would be its service? Vipralambha is necessary only because it intensifies the ecstatic feelings of reunion again.”

Narayana Maharaja Sri Vraja-Mandala Parikrama, p.46:

“So you can see that the mood of vipralambha is much more complex than possibly the way you envisioned it to be before. And those who still persist in advocating that vipralambha is the highest, they do not yet have the spiritual maturity and understanding to realize that it is not possible for anything to be more elevated than Srimati Radharani and Krishna’s ecstatic loving exchanges in reuniting again.”

But Srila Prabhupada says:

“Upon hearing of these transcendental activities, Lord Caitanya said, “My dear Ramananda, what you have explained regarding the transcendental pastimes of Sri Radha and Krishna is perfectly correct, yet there is something more I would like to hear from you.” “It is very difficult for me to express anything beyond this,” Ramananda Raya replied. “I can only say that there is an emotional activity called prema-vilasa-vivarta, which I may try to explain but I do not know whether You will be happy to hear it.” In prema-vilasa there are two kinds of emotional activities–separation and meeting. That transcendental separation is so acute that it is actually more ecstatic than meeting.”

(Cc Madhya lila 8.191-197 in Teachings of Lord Caitanya)

 

Narayana Maharaja, p.23, ISKCON Journal 1990:

“Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura has not mentioned that so many others will do acarya, yet they have done. This is the system. So Tirtha Maharaja, Madhav Maharaja, Sridhar Maharaja, our Gurudeva, Swamiji Swamiji Bhaktivedanta Swami they all became acaryas.”

But Srila Prabhupada says:

“He never recommended anyone to be acarya of the Gaudiya Math. But Sridhara Maharaja is responsible for disobeying this order of Guru Maharaja, and he and others who are already dead unnecessarily thought that there must be one acarya. If Guru Maharaja could have seen someone who was qualified at that time to be acarya he would have mentioned. Because on the night before he passed away he talked of so many things, but never mentioned an acarya. His idea was acarya was not to be nominated amongst the governing body. He said openly you make a GBC and conduct the mission. So his idea was amongst the members of GBC who would come out successful and self effulgent acarya would be automatically selected. So Sridhara Maharaja and his two associate gentlemen unauthorizedly selected one acarya and later it proved a failure. The result is now everyone is claiming to be acarya even though they may be kanistha adhikari with no ability to preach. In some of the camps the acarya is being changed three times a year. Therefore we may not commit the same mistake in our ISKCON camp. Actually amongst my Godbrothers no one is qualified to become acarya. So it is better not to mix with my Godbrothers very intimately because instead of inspiring our students and disciples they may sometimes pollute them.”

“Just like my Guru Mahārāja did not travel all over the world, so I have got double energy than him. So you must triple energy, four times energy than me. Then actually disciple. My Godbrothers are envious because they could not do. They could not do even half of Guru Mahārāja’s work, and I am doing ten times. So therefore they are envious.” (Room Conversation — April 2, 1972, Sydney)

Bhakti Rakshaka Sridhara Maharaja disobeyed Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati – said Prabhupada

He never recommended anyone to be acarya of the Gaudiya Math. But Sridhara Maharaja is responsible for disobeying this order of Guru Maharaja, and he and others who are already dead unnecessarily thought that there must be one acarya.

So it is better not to mix with my Godbrothers very intimately because instead of inspiring our students and disciples they may sometimes pollute them. This attempt was made previously by them, especially Madhava Maharaja and Tirtha Maharaja and Bon Maharaja but somehow or other I saved the situation.

This is going on. We shall be very careful about them and not mix with them. This is my instruction to you all. They cannot help us in our movement, but they are very competent to harm our natural progress. So we must be very careful about them.

LETTER TO RUPANUGA

Tirupati 28 April, 1974
Washington D.C.

There should be no dealings with
Srila Prabhupada’s so-called godbrothers

8 November 1975
NOTICE TO ALL CENTERS
Dear President,

Prabhus, please accept my humble obeisances. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Srila Prabhupada has asked me to write to you to make it very explicit that there should be no dealings between you and Prabhupada’s so-called godbrothers. They are all jealous and are all trying to do harm to our mission and also to Srila Prabhupada. So without Srila Prabhupada’s permission, no one should correspond with any of them, and no one should have anything to do with any of them, without asking Srila Prabhupada. No one should give them any of Srila Prabhupada’s books, no one should purchase their books, no one should visit their temples without authorization. I hope this is clear. It is very important. Please instruct all your devotees regarding this. [crossed out words] And when the devotees come for the annual festival, you should also instruct them not to visit or have any dealings with any of the godbrothers. I hope this is clear and I hope this meets you in good health.

Your servant,
Brahmananda Swami
Personal Secretary to
His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada
BS/mdd

Svarupa Damodar Pr(South Africa) Thwarting Gaudiya Math Narayan Maharaj’s Take Over of Iskcon Devotees

he’s doing his bit to rid iskcon of the gaudiya math/narayan maharaj plague that we set loose. TY Svarupa Damodar Pr.and he did so by organizing iskcon devotees to go door to door. All glories!

annoyed Gaudiya Math Swami complains. When cheaters are upset by our preaching – that is a sign of success!

My Open appeal to Swarup Damodar das President ISKCON Chatsworth South Africa
A disciple of Srila Narayana Maharaja sent me a message yesterday after reading my note. He said as follows:

The person who is at the center of the ISKCON propaganda machine, you will find is Swarup Damodar das (Temple president of Sri Sri Radha Radhanath) in Chatsworth and ISKCON KZN director.

So here is my open letter to Swarupa Damodara Das:

My Dear Swarupa Damodara Prabhu,
Please accept my humble obeisances
All Glories to Srila Prabhupada

It has been brought to my attention that you are blaspheming Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Goswami Maharaja by sending devotees to go door to door saying that he is a bogus Guru and no one should go to see him at his programs.

Posted by Bhagavat Maharaja on Thursday, December 17, 2009

Prabhupada Ordered Not to Mix with Gaudiya Math Gurus (NarayanaMaharaj)

“I do not wish to discuss about activities of my Godbrothers but it is a fact they have no life for preaching work. All are satisfied with a place for residence in the name of a temple, they engage disciples to get foodstuff by transcendental devices and eat and sleep. (Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to Rupanuga 4/28/74)

“They have no idea or brain how to broacast the cult of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. My Guru Maharaja used to lament many times for this reason and he thought if one man at least had understood the principle of preaching then his mission would achieve success.

“In the latter days of my Guru Maharaja he was very disgusted. Actually, he left this world earlier, otherwise he would have continued to live for more years. Still he requested his disciples to form a strong Governing body for preaching the cult of Caitanya Mahaprabhu.

He never recommended anyone to be acarya of the Gaudiya Math. But Sridhara Maharaja is responsible for disobeying this order of Guru Maharaja, and he and others who are already dead unnecessarily thought that there must be one acarya. If Guru Maharaja could have seen someone who was qualified at that time to be acarya he would have mentioned. Because on the night before he passed away he talked of so many things, but never mentioned an acarya.

His idea was acarya was not to be nominated amongst the governing bodyHe said openly you make a GBC and conduct the mission. So his idea was amongst the members of GBC who would come out successful and self effulgent acarya would be automatically selected.

So Sridhara Maharaja and his two associate gentlemen unauthorizedly selected one acarya and later it proved a failure. The result is now everyone is claiming to be acarya even though they may be kanistha adhikari with no ability to preach. In some of the camps the acarya is being changed three times a year.

Therefore we may not commit the same mistake in our ISKCON campActually amongst my Godbrothers no one is qualified to become acarya. So it is better not to mix with my Godbrothers very intimately because instead of inspiring our students and disciples they may sometimes pollute them. This attempt was made previously by them, especially Madhava Maharaja and Tirtha Maharaja and Bon Maharaja but somehow or other I saved the situation. This is going on. We shall be very careful about them and not mix with them. This is my instruction to you all. They cannot help us in our movement, but they are very competent to harm our natural progress. So we must be very careful about them.

The spiritual master’s order to continue the mission through a governing body

730921r2.bom Conversations

Prabhupada: Our Kunja Babu also planned like that. He thought, “By cheating all the God-brothers, I have got now Caitanya Matha. And people will come to see Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s birthplace, and I will get good income. And it will be distributed amongst my brothers and sons and myself. That’s all.” That is his scheme.
Tamala Krsna: Perfect material plan.
Prabhupada: Yes. It is another way of earning money. And he was always after Guru Maharaja only for this purpose. Guru Maharaja took that “Oh, this man is helping me.” But he had no such plan, to help Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati. He had the plan, “Keep Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati in front, earn money, and put it in my pocket.” That was his very beginning. He was taking money like anything. But he was a good manager. Other God-brothers complained, sannyasis. Guru Maharaja used to say that “Why you are complaining? You cannot reform him, your God-brother? And if I would have to keep expert manager like him, I would have to pay something. Suppose he is taking something, why do you grudge?” (Prabhupada laughing) He would say like that. So nobody could say anything. But after the demise, everything burst out. “Kunja Babu must be driven out.” That was the whole plan of Gaudiya Matha breakdown. The grudge was against Kunja Babu.
Tamala KrsnaWho is Kunja Babu?
PrabhupadaThat Tirtha Maharaja. His name is Kunja Vihari Sar. So that was boiling in everyone’s heart. So as soon as Guru Maharaja passed away, so that burst out. And the whole plan was how to get out this Kunja Babu.
Tamala Krsna: Not how to preach.
Prabhupada: No. This was the cause of breakdown. This was suppressed by Guru Maharaja under his influence, but the rebellious was there during his lifetime. And it burst into… Therefore he advised that “You make a governing body and Kunja Babu should be allowed to remain manager.” This was directly spoken. He never asked anybody to become acarya. He asked that “You form a governing body of twelve men and go on preaching, and Kunja Babu may be allowed to remain manager during his lifetime.” He never said that Kunja Babu should be acarya. None, none of them were advised by Guru Maharaja to become acarya. His idea was “Let them manage; then whoever will be actual qualified for becoming acarya, they will elect. Why I should enforce upon them?” That was his plan. “Let them manage by strong governing body, as it is going on. Then acarya will come by his qualifications.” But they wanted that… Because at heart, they were, “After demise of Guru, I shall become acarya.” “I shall become acarya.” So all the acaryas began fight.

One side, that Vasudeva Acarya and Sar Kunja Babu AcaryaAnd Paramananda, he thought that “Whoever will be powerful, I shall join them.” (laughing) He only thought. But Guru Maharaja never asked that these three men should be trustees. He wanted governing body.

So the rebellion broke out immediately after his passing away. And then fight in the High Court. And Kunja Babu, he is very intelligent man. So from the very beginning he knew that “There will be fight after the demise of Guru Maharaja. So fight will be in the High Court. So at the expense of Guru Maharaja, let my brother and sons become attorneys and barrister so I will have not to pay all these things.” It was a planned thing. And that is being done. He was a clerk, it was not in his power to make his brother and sons attorneys and barristers. They were all made at the cost of Gaudiya Matha to fight with (indistinct) in favor of Tirtha Maharaja. These were the planned things. But I was a rotten grhastha. I did not join any one of them. (Prabhupada laughs) I was rotting in my household life. That’s all. But I was planning how to make, how to make this. That was my desire from the very beginning, since I heard it. But I was never with them, either this party or that party. And Guru Maharaja also recommended, apnader tasturi tublia thaki bhavan. Takhona (?). “When there will be need, he will do himself. There is no need of living with you. It is better to live apart from you.” When I was recommended by Goswami Maharaja to live in the Matha, that “He is so nice.” Sometimes he recommended. In Bombay, here in this Bombay. That house. Yes. He (Guru Maharaja) said “Yes, he is very expert. He can do. So it is better to live apart from you. And he will do everything when there is need.” He said. I could not understand. Although I was apart from them, a grhastha. In this Bombay I was doing business. (people talking outside) (S.P.Room Conversation with Banker September 21, 1973, Bombay)

Two Gaudia Math party factions

Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to Narayana Maharaja 9/30/69:
“Regarding the 92 section case against the Gaudiya Math, I don’t think there is any possibility of compromise. Both the Bhagbazar Party [Sridhar Maharaja’s group] and Mayapur party [Tirtha Maharaja’s group] have unlawfully usurped the missionary institution of Srila Prabhupada, and whenever they will talk of a compromise, it means another complication.”

Despite the spiritual master’s order to form a governing body and execute the missionary activities of the Gaudiya Matha, the two unauthorized factions began litigation that is still going on after forty years with no decision. Therefore, we do not belong to any faction. But because the two parties, busy dividing the material assets of the Gaudiya Matha institution, stopped the preaching work, we took up the mission of Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura and Bhaktivinoda Thakura to preach the cult of Caitanya Mahaprabhu all over the world, under the protection of all the predecessor acaryas, and we find that our humble attempt has been successful”. (C.C Adi 12.8)

770422r3.bom Conversations
Prabhupada: He cannot make any comment. These are facts. Two parties there were. One party, to use guru as their instrument for self-aggrandizement, and another party left guru. So both of them are offenders. This Kunja Babu, this Tirtha Maharaja’s party, he wanted to enjoy senses through guru. And the Bagh Bazaar party, they left.

Tamala Krsna: Vasudeva.

Prabhupada: So both of them are severe offenders.

Tamala Krsna: What about Sridhara Maharaja?

Prabhupada: SRIDHARA MAHARAJA BELONGED TO THE BAGH BAZAAR PARTY. And I was living aloof. My Guru Maharaja approved. He said, “It is better that he is aloof from them.”

Tamala Krsna: He could understand that his disciples were not…

Prabhupada: No, he was very sorry. AT THE LAST STAGE HE WAS DISGUSTED.

72-08-26. Letter: Gaurasundara
All along I HAVE BEEN DISCOURAGED IN EVERY WAY BY MY GODBROTHERS, but still I have stuck to my duty, keeping my Spiritual Master always in front.

72-09-09. Letter: Krsna dasa
MY GODBROTHERS ALWAYS DISCOURAGED ME BUT I DID NOT GIVE UP, I am doing my duty and always keeping my spiritual master in front. Even there is some difficulty or hardship, or even my godbrothers may not cooperate or there may be fighting, still, I must perform my duty to my spiritual master and not become discouraged and go away, that is my weakness.

760618rc.tor Conversations
Prabhupada: Daily night. And he was shocked. ONE OF MY GAUDIYA MATHA GODBROTHERS, BIG, HE BECAME THE HEAD OF THIS BHAG BAZAAR GAUDIYA MATHA. So his wife was debauched, and she was bringing new paramour, and the child protested.

Pusta Krsna: New?

Prabhupada: Paramour. And the boy, he was ten years or twelve years old, he could understand: “Who is this man?” So he protested and said, “I shall tell all these things to my father.” And he was killed.

Pusta Krsna: The boy was killed?

Prabhupada: By the mother.

Hari-sauri: She murdered him?

Prabhupada: Yes. Killed means given poison. And the father, that is, my Godbrother, seeing this, he also took poison. This is the end of Gaudiya Matha scandal. He was also one of the trustees. This Tirtha Maharaja was a trustee, and another Godbrother and this man. In the beginning, they were made trustees. In the beginning, Prabhupada was to undergo surgical operation. So he was a little nervous, that “I may die.” So he made a scrap paper, that “In case I die, these three disciples will be trustees of the Gaudiya Matha Institute.” That’s all. So this Kunja Babu kept this. There are many long histories. SO ONE OF THE SO-CALLED TRUSTEES WAS THIS VASUDEVA. So he died, his end was like this.

Pusta Krsna: His son was killed, isn’t it?

Prabhupada: His wife was a regular prostitute, and she killed her child, and on this shock, he took poison and died.

Pusta Krsna: He killed himself, oh.

Prabhupada: Naturally, he became shocked, that “This is my family life–the wife is prostitute and son is killed. What is the value of my life?” This was his spiritual realization. Just see. (laughs) AND HE WAS MADE THE CHIEF, AND ONE OF THE SUPPORTER WAS SRIDHARA MAHARAJA.

Pusta Krsna: Vasudeva Sridhara?

Prabhupada: No, no. He was made chief. Guru Maharaja did not make him chief. But after his passing away, some of our Godbrothers voted him chief.

Pusta Krsna: Am I mis…? You had told me once, I’m not certain. Maybe I made a mistake. YOU SAID THAT VASUDEVA, IT WAS KNOWN FACT THAT HE WAS HOMOSEX?

Prabhupada: Yes.

Pusta Krsna: Vasudeva.

Prabhupada: HE WAS HOMOSEX AND SEX, EVERYTHING.

Srila Prabhupada’s Viraha Astaka 1958

2) Your so-called disciple, the jackal named Ananta Vasudeva, disobeyed your final instructions to keep the mission united, and thereby created a scandalous fiasco. The result of this philosophical deviation is evident to this day as imitative sahajiyas are being worshiped as gurus in your temples.
3) Is there a single temple to be found where your instructions are still being followed? As it is said: “punar musiko bhava”- Everyone has “again become a mouse.”
4) The lion’s food has been stolen away by the deceptive tricks of the jackal Now caught in Maya’s mighty clutches everyone is reduced to wailing and weeping.

The Gaudia Math politics

Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to Subala 10/15/74:
My other godbrothers they are concerned with litigations, politics, and diplomacy, so what is the pracara? As far as I am concerned I have the blessings of my guru maharaj. I do not need anything else. That is how I went to your country, just to try to carry out his order. By his blessings it has come out successful.”

“Why is there this politics? This is not good. If politics come, then the preaching will be stopped. That is the difficulty. As soon as politics come, everything is spoiled. In the Gaudiya Math the politics is still going on. My Guru Maharaja left in 1936, and now it is 1976, so after 40 years the litigation is still going on. Do not come to this.” (S.P Letter to Gurukrpa swami, 30/9/75)

“You are right that politics should be avoided. In my personal life I did not participate in the political diplomacy of my Godbrothers. I was simply thinking how to fulfil the order of my Guru Maharaja.” (S.P Letter to Gangamayi devi dasi, 18/10/74)

“A person who cannot keep his faith in the words of his spiritual master but acts independently never receives the authority to chant the holy name of the Lord. It is said in the Vedas” (Svetasvatara Upanisad 6.23):

yasya deve para bhaktir – yatha deve tatha gurau
tasyaite kathita hy arthah – prakasante mahatmanah

“Only unto those great souls who have implicit faith in both the Lord and the spiritual master are all the imports of Vedic knowledge automatically revealed.” This Vedic injunction is very important, and Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu supported it by His personal behavior. Believing in the words of His spiritual master, He introduced the sankirtana movement, just as the present Krishna consciousness movement was started with belief in the words of our spiritual master. He wanted to preach, we believed in his words and tried somehow or other to fulfill them, and now this movement has become successful all over the world. Therefore faith in the words of the spiritual master and in the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the secret of success.
Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu never disobeyed the orders of His spiritual master and stopped propagating the sankirtana movement.

Sri Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami, at the time of his passing away, ordered all his disciples to work conjointly to preach the mission of Caitanya Mahaprabhu all over the world. Later, however, some self-interested, foolish disciples disobeyed his ordersEach one of them wanted to become head of the mission, and they fought in the courts, neglecting the order of the spiritual master, and the entire mission was defeated. We are not proud of this; however, the truth must be explained. We believed in the words of our spiritual master and started in a humble way –in a helpless way– but due to the spiritual force of the order of the supreme authority, this movement has become successful.” (C.C Adi Lila 7.95-96)

COOPERATING WITH GAUDIYA MATH

EVOL.SYA The Evolutionists: Philosophy
Prabhupada: UNLESS YOU SURRENDER, WHERE IS THE COOPERATION? Where is the cooperation? Just like all my disciples, because they have surrendered, so there is cooperation. Therefore this movement is increasing.

71-02-23.Jay Letter: Jayapataka
SO FAR AS COOPERATING WITH MY GODBROTHERS IS CONCERNED, THAT IS NOT VERY URGENT BUSINESS. SO FAR UNTIL NOW MY GODBROTHERS HAVE REGULARLY NOT COOPERATED WITH ME AND BY THE GRACE OF MY SPIRITUAL MASTER, THINGS ARE STILL GOING AHEAD. SO COOPERATION OR NON-COOPERATION, IT IS THE DESIRE OF BHAKTIVINODE THAKURA TO PREACH THE CAITANYA CULT ALL OVER THE WORLD AND IN 1875 HE PREDICTED THAT SOMEONE WOULD COME VERY SOON WHO WOULD INDIVIDUALLY PREACH THIS CULT ALL OVER THE WORLD. SO IF HIS BENEDICTION IS THERE AND MY GURU MAHARAJA’S BLESSINGS ARE THERE, WE CAN GO AHEAD WITHOUT ANY IMPEDIMENT BUT ALL OF US MUST BE VERY SINCERE AND SERIOUS. We have been a little inflicted by public criticism that we Godbrothers do not work together. My Guru Maharaja wanted also us to work together but some how or other it hasn’t happened up until now. So your program of cooperating with Madhava Maharaja is not so important. Best thing is that all we Godbrothers work together. Then the criticism will stop, otherwise even we join together, criticism will go on. So this has been going on for the last 24 years, but everyone of us is doing his best keeping Lord Caitanya in the center. We should be satisfied so much.

65-11-08.Tir Letter: Tirtha Maharaja
Kindly accept respectful obeisances at your lotus feet. Since I have come to the United States of America I had several correspondence with Sripada Govinda Maharaja. While I was in Calcutta at that time as well as in our different exchange of letters there was some hint from Sripada Govinda Maharaja, I should work in cooperation with your holiness and in my last letter I have already expressed my readiness to cooperate with your holiness and I had to ask from Govinda Maharaja as to the basic principle of that cooperation. BEFORE I TOOK SANNYASA PERHAPS YOU WILL REMEMBER IT THAT I PROPOSED TO JOIN YOU IF MY PUBLICATIONS WERE TAKEN UP. BUT SOME HOW OR OTHER IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE AND WE MISSED THE CHANCE.

74-06-08.Acy Letter: Acyutananda
You should not write anything to Madhava Maharaja’s camp. You may have talked many things with Mangala Niloy but why write him in black and white. The letter must not be sent. THEIR POLICY HAS BEEN ALL ALONG TO SUPPRESS ME AND TAKE CREDIT FOR HIMSELF. THEIR PROPOSAL FOR COOPERATION IS A MYTH. THEY HAVEN’T DONE ANYTHING WHICH IS COOPERATIVE. YOU KNOW IN A RECENT ARTICLE THEY MANAGED TO WRITE IN SUCH A WAY THAT MADHAVA IS DOING THE WORLD MOVEMENT AND WE ARE HIS SUBORDINATE. FROM THE BEGINNING THAT HAS BEEN THEIR MENTALITY. SO THERE IS NO POSSIBILITY OF COOPERATION WITH THEM. RATHER YOU SHOULD AVOID STRICTLY MEETING WITH THEM. THEY ARE NOT AFTER PREACHING BUT MATERIAL GAIN AND REPUTATION AND ADORATION. OTHERWISE WHY THEY ARE NON COOPERATING WITH ME? SO NO COOPERATION IS POSSIBLE. Do not think or indulge in loose talks. Be careful always. Let us do the duty of propagation sincerely and seriously on our own principles. Krsna and Srila Prabhupada Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura are our only hope and they and helping us. If anything thing has to be done it is to be talked on the higher level between Madhava Maharaja and myself, but I know his mentality is different and there is no possibility of cooperation.

DEPRESSION – REPRESSION – COMPRESSION

72-08-29.Gur Letter: Gurudasa
Please accept my blessings. I am in due receipt of your letter dated August 23, 1972, and I have noted the contents carefully. Do not be depressed. ALL ALONG MY GODBROTHERS GAVE ME ONLY DEPRESSION, REPRESSION, COMPRESSION–BUT I CONTINUED STRONG IN MY DUTY.

73-11-14. Letter: Sukadeva
Regarding the Gaudiya Math books being circulated there, who is distributing? Who is sending these books? The Gaudiya Math does not sell our books, why we should sell their books. Who has introduced these books? Let me know. THESE BOOKS SHOULD NOT AT ALL BE CIRCULATED IN OUR SOCIETY. BHAKTI VILAS TIRTHA IS VERY MUCH ANTAGONISTIC TO OUR SOCIETY AND HE HAS NO CLEAR CONCEPTION OF DEVOTIONAL SERVICE. HE IS CONTAMINATED. ANYWAY, WHO HAS INTRODUCED THESE BOOKS? YOU SAY THAT YOU WOULD READ ONLY ONE BOOK IF THAT WAS ALL THAT I HAD WRITTEN, SO YOU TEACH OTHERS TO DO LIKE THAT. You have very good determination.

68-02-17. Letter: Pradyumna
REGARDING THE BOOK LIST: “LORD GAURANGA” BY S.K. GHOSE AND VEDER PANCHAYA BY BON MAHARAJA ARE USELESS AND YOU MAY NOT GET THEM. The other books and the Gaudiya paper are acceptable. If you have free use of Xerox machine you may make copies, of some of the smaller works.

The envious Gaudia Math godbrothers

Srila Prabhupada’s Room Conversation in Bombay 1/8/77:
“There are similarly men also. Unnecessarily they are envious, offensive, unnecessary. They cannot tolerate others’ opulence. Just like our Godbrothers. They are envious. What I have done to them? I am doing my business, trying to serve my Guru Maharaja. But they are envious because I am so opulent. I have got so much fame, so many influence, so much influence all over the world. Everyone is praising me about… That is ignorance. And this is regrettable because they are posing themselves as Vaisnava. Ordinary man can do that, but they are dressing like Vaisnava, and they are so envious. That Tirtha Maharaja, unnecessarily he was envious, whole life fighting, fighting, fighting in the court and died. Simply planning.”

Srila Prabhupada’s Room Conversation with a Reporter in Johannesburg 10/16/75:
So these rascals, Godbrothers, they are envious that… What he has written? Bon Maharaja. Just see what kind of men they are. They are not even ordinary human beingThey are envious of me, and what to speak of make a judgment by estimation? They’re envious. Enviousness is immediately disqualification of Vaisnava, immediate. He is not a human being. Paramo nirmatsaranam satam. This Bhagavatam is meant for the person who is completely not envious. That is the beginning. Why a Vaisnava should be envious for anyone? Everyone is working according to his karma. He is trying to rectify him, that ‘Be out of these clutches of karma. You come to bhakti.’ Why he should be envious? Vancha-kalpatarubhyas ca krpa-sindhubhya eva ca. A Vaisnava should be like ocean of mercy to reclaim the fallen souls. That is Vaisnava’s qualification. So Vaisnava should be envious? Just see.

So these persons, they are not even human being, what to speak of Vaisnava
. Vaisnava cannot be envious. Vaisnava should be: ‘Oh, my Lord’s name is being broadcast. He is getting, giving so much service to make Krsna known.’ That man has appreciated, that ‘All these spiritual leaders, they are deriding. You are the only man… You are… It enthuses us, give us more encouragement, that you are keeping intact, love of Krsna.’ This is an appreciation. Why he should be envious? He should be, rather, very much enthused that ‘This single man is keeping Krsna all over the world.’ And everyone is deriding. Even Gandhi is killing Krsna. Dr. Radhakrishnan is killing. Their only business is to kill Krsna. He is also doing that, our, this Bon Maharaja. He never speaks of Krsna. His rascal, that Institute of Indian Philosophy, nobody goes to [pass] urine there. We see practically. And our temple is always filled up, five hundred men. And he is trying for the last forty years. He is simply planning: ‘This will be playground. This will be this ground. This will be this ground.’ And it is becoming jungle. Still, he is so envious, black snakeSo one circular letter should be issued to all our center, that ‘Any Bon Maharaja or anyone, his representative, should not be received.’ They are envious. Yes. Quoting that. We have got several complaints like that. Satsvarupa also complained. Sometimes our order was cancelled by Bon Maharaja’s propaganda.”

Srila Prabhupada’s Room Conversation in Vrindaban 5/24/77:
“If somebody thinks, ‘Oh, here is a snake with jewel. Let me embrace him, no, no, no, it is very ferocious. Even it is jewel there, it is ferocious. Similarly, these people are envious. Although they have become so-called Vaisnava, they are ferocious. They have not acquired the qualification of Vaisnava. Simply vesopidin(?), by dress.”

Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to Niranjana 5/21/73:
“Our big, big godbrothers in India, they could not preach Lord Gauranga’s name all over India. They are simply inclined to criticize me, that my students call me Prabhupada. They could not do anything practical and tangible. They are satisfied with a temple and a few disciples begging alms for the maintenance of the temple.
So, we can understand that they have all become sudras. How can they have interest in Bhagavad-gita. Although some of them have been born in brahmana families, but by quality are all sudras.”

Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to Yamuna 11/18/70:
“Regarding the Gaudiya Math, our position has nothing to do with them. They cannot do anything and if somebody does something, they will be envious. That is the nature of third class men.”

760203mw.may Conversations
PrabhupadaAt least historically it be proved. (break) …cause of envy of my Godbrothers. I was known. Although they knew that Prabhupada liked me very much, because I am grhastha, I was known as paca-grhastha. PACA-GRHASTHA MEANS A ROTTEN GRHASTHA. And now they say, “This grhastha has come out more than us? What is this?” (break) Sridhara Maharaja’s chief disciple…?
Bhavananda: Gaura.
Prabhupada: HE ALWAYS USED TO SAY TO SRIDHARA MAHARAJA THAT “YOU ARE SEEING ABHAY BABU AS GRHASTHA, BUT HE IS MORE THAN MANY YOGIS.” HE WAS TELLING.

760119rc.may Conversations
Bhavananda: (Gaudia Matha) People are attracted by the Westerners coming to the matha. So if we’re up at that matha, any of us, and then they say, “Just see.” They say in Bengali, “Just see. They are coming. To see our guru maharaja, they are coming.”
Prabhupada: THAT WAS THE POLICY OF MADHAVA MAHARAJA AND SRIDHARA MAHARAJA, THAT “ALTHOUGH BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI IS PROPAGATING THROUGHOUT, HE IS SUBORDINATE TO US, UNDER OUR INSTRUCTION.” SO ALL THESE THREE.

Narayana Maharaja: “So Swamiji (Srila Prabhupada) has at first cleared the atmosphere… Prepared the ground… by that doing. It was only basement… Foundation. To dig for basement of this big temple is not everything. So I want to say that your Prabhupada has given these things…only these things…and not beyond these things. Then he was only the servant of Mahavisnu, not of Krishna.” (NM Lecture Sept. 19th, 1994)

Narayana Maharaja: you should not minimize all other (Gaudiya Math) acaryas who have not come here (to the west), but more qualified they were (than Srila Prabhupada). Like parama pujyapada Sridhara Maharaja, Gosvami Maharaja, my Guru Maharaja, to whom this Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja (Prabhupada) used to make, used to honor like siksa-guru.
Also you should know that Caitanya Mahaprabhu is the founder of ISKCON. Swamiji, AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja is one of the prominent acaryas in this line only. He is not founder… (NM 28th April 1999, morning, Caracas)

Narayana MaharajaThey are establishing that he was the founder of ISKCON, but I know that he was not founder, he was one of the members of this in guru parampara. It was founded by Krishna, and first acarya was Brahma, then Narada, then Vyasa. Only he has changed the name and he has preached these things in Western countries.” (NM Mathura, October 24, 1999)

Narayana Maharaja: “Your Prabhupada, Srila Swami Maharaja, only changed the name into English. He is not the founder-acarya of that eternal ISKCON… I am ISKCON. I’m not different from ISKCON. I am ‘Bhaktivedanta’ [Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Gosvami Maharaja]. Like father, like son. I am the real successor of Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja, and there is no other. You should know this very openly. I am Bhaktivedanta and he is Bhaktivedanta, but he received this name after I did. I’m senior to him in this regard… I’m Bhaktivedanta, and I’m also ISKCON. Don’t think that I’m out of ISKCON.” (NM Murwillumbah, Australia: Feb. 18, 2002, eve)

A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada Letter to: Dr. Bigelow: — Allahabad 20 January, 1971:
“I am the founder – acharya of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness.”

Srila Prabhupada: So it is better not to mix with my Godbrothers very intimately because instead of inspiring our students and disciples they may sometimes pollute them. This attempt was made previously by them, especially Madhava Maharaja and Tirtha Maharajaand Bon Maharaja but somehow or other I saved the situation. This is going on. We shall be very careful about them and not mix with them. This is my instruction to you all. They cannot help us in our movement, but they are very competent to harm our natural progress. So we must be very careful about them.

“Regarding Bon and Tirtha Maharaja, they are my godbrothers and should be shown respect. But you should not have any intimate connection with them, as they have gone against the orders of my Guru Maharaja.” (to Pradumnya Feb 17, 1968)

“…I am greatly surprised for Bon Maharaja’s initiating you in spite of his knowing that you are already initiated to me. So it is a deliberate transgression of Vaisnava etiquette, and otherwise a deliberate insult to me. I do not know why he has done this, but no Vaisnava will approve of this offensive action…”(to Mukunda Mar 26,1968)

“…now, one thing is I understand that in the past you were visiting Lalita Prasad and that you may also be planning to continue visiting him when you return to India. This is not approved of by me and I request you not to go and see him any more. He holds a grudge against my Guru Maharaja and even if it is transcendental it will gradually appear mundane in our eyes. Whatever is to be learned of the teachings of Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura can be learned from our books. There is no need whatsoever for any outside instruction. So I hope that you have understood these matters and I pray to Krishna always for your protection and advancement in Krishna consciousness.” (to Gurukripa and Yashodananda Swamis, Dec 25, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada: “Do not mix with my Godbrothers, please avoid them”

68-02-17. Letter: Pradyumna
REGARDING BHAKTI PURITIRTHA MAHARAJA, THEY ARE MY GOD-BROTHERS AND SHOULD BE SHOWN RESPECT. BUT YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY INTIMATE CONNECTION WITH THEM AS THEY HAVE GONE AGAINST THE ORDERS OF MY GURU MAHARAJA.

So it is better not to mix with my Godbrothers very intimately because instead of inspiring our students and disciples they may sometimes pollute them. This attempt was made previously by them, especially Madhava Maharaja and Tirtha Maharaja and Bon Maharaja but somehow or other I saved the situation. This is going on. We shall be very careful about them and not mix with them. This is my instruction to you all. They cannot help us in our movement, but they are very competent to harm our natural progress. So we must be very careful about them. (Letter to Rupanuga 4/28/74)

75-11-09. Letter: Visvakarma
Please accept my blessings. I am in due receipt of your letter dated September 3, 1975 with the enclosed statement about Van MaharajaSo I have now issued orders that all my disciples should avoid all of my godbrothers. THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY DEALINGS WITH THEM NOR EVEN CORRESPONDENCE, NOR SHOULD THEY GIVE THEM ANY OF MY BOOKS OR SHOULD THEY PURCHASE ANY OF THEIR BOOKS, NEITHER SHOULD YOU VISIT ANY OF THEIR TEMPLES. PLEASE AVOID THEM.

73-11-14. Letter: Sukadeva
BHAKTI VILAS TIRTHA IS VERY MUCH ANTAGONISTIC TO OUR SOCIETY AND HE HAS NO CLEAR CONCEPTION OF DEVOTIONAL SERVICE. HE IS CONTAMINATED.

Letter to Karuna Sindhu Nov 9, 1975
“I can understand this cunning Puri dasa has taken advantage of your simplicity. So any of my godbrothers cannot help me in this way of book writing because they are unfortunate in the matter of preaching work. They are simply trying to infiltrate our society to do something harmful by this attemptSo please do not have any correspondence with this Puri or any of my godbrothers, so- called

72-11-21. Letter: Niranjana

If you are serious to be an important assistant in our Society you should fully engage yourself in translation work, AND DO NOT MIX YOURSELF WITH MY SO-CALLED GOD-BROTHERS. AS THERE ARE IN VRINDABAN SOME RESIDENTS LIKE MONKEYS AND HOGS, SIMILARLY THERE ARE MANY RASCALS IN THE NAME OF VAISNAVAS, be careful of them. And do not dare to question imprudently before your Spiritual Master. Further talks we may discuss when we meet.