(chanakya neeti scholar) Patita pavana Das’s words were so idiotic/cheating I had to expose him.
He is like an uncle to these ladies and as an elder is sharing some familial affection, something ISKCON needs more of. Shrila Prabhupada mentions that pure males and pure females may celebrate sometimes together
Caturatma Das sinful dance with girls is not as horrible as Patita Pavana Das covering his illicit sex!
This is not allowed in vedic culture
This is not fatherly affection
It’s illicit sex
Fathers don’t touch their daughters bodies after a certain age.
Don’t justify illicit sex using “it’s fatherly” nonsense.
No father dances with his daughter in vedic culture
In indradyumna swami’s culture….that’s something else.
PAGE 4:Hanuman dasa, as far as the video of Chaturatma dasa dancing at kirtan with two ladies, I must add that this staunch devotee’s character is far beyond reproach. He is a householder, married faithfully to the same Mataji for decades. He is like an uncle to these ladies and as an elder is sharing some familial affection, something ISKCON needs more of. Shrila Prabhupada mentions that pure males and pure females may celebrate sometimes together, but this should not be taken wrongly by the small-minded. In ISKCON, due to so many fall-downs, there is an all-encompassing tendency towards suspicion. However, as a friend of Chaturatma, I can assure anyone who is interested in my opinion that he is not that guy. Chaturatmata is actually a rare pandit. He knows the lilas of the associates of Mahaprabhu from beginning to end and speaks on their activities with such memory, devotion and commentary that his talks leave me feeling awe-struck.
So you have requested my response and I have given it. I would add that as a footnote it was HH Indradyumna Swami who hustled your spiritual master HH Shridhara Swami out of Canada when he was going into a hepatitis coma and got him safely to Mayapura. I am a little surprised that a disciple of Shridhar Maharaja could resort to such hearsay. From the lilas of the Mahabhagavatas of described in Shri Chaitanya Charitamrita we learn that he Godbrother and associate of Shri Guru is likewise accorded the same respect. Don’t forget, I was locked in a prison cell for weeks with your Guru Maharaja and know His Holiness well, As a close friend of your Guru Maharaja who stood trial alongside for capital murder in corrupt India I can say that he will look with great disdain upon your couched accusations of his dear sannyasi Godbrother. That also will not benefit your spiritual advancement.
Otherwise, I wish you and your service well, and offer my sincere regards to your wife and family,I do hope that this meets you and yours well,, and I beg to remain,
Yours in the seva of the Vaishnavas,
Patita Pavana dasa
Caturatma Das, this type of man is allowed to give lectures to indradyumna Swami’s yatra!
So it’s not his fault. It’s indradyumna Swami’s fault.
Our Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura has sung a song, eita eka kalir celā: “Here is a disciple of Kali.” What is that? Nāke tilaka galai mālā. “He has got tilaka…” Nata nara nāke tilaka galai mālā. He sings that, sahaja bhajana kache namu saṅge laiyā pare dala. (?) Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura sings that “He’s dressed like a bābājī. He has shaven his head, and has got tilaka and kaṇṭhi. But he has got at least half a dozen women, and that is his bhajana.” So not that… That is not mahātmā. That is durātmā, a cheating… Of course, in this Kali-yuga… Therefore Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura says, eita eka kalir celā. Kalir celā means the disciple of Kali. Dressed like a sādhu, or Vaiṣṇava, but within, all rubbish things. That will not help us.
For more quotes and details on such behavior please go to this link https://vaniquotes.org/wiki/Bhaktivinoda_Thakura_describes_pseudo-Vaisnavas,_%22disciples_of_Kali%22
Thing to notice here is that he is dancing with women who are not his wives.
In Krishna consciousness, you can not expect to have desires which are not dharmic and expect that Krishna will fulfill them.
One may have desire to have a wife, that desire is according to dharma, but spinning with other women publicly is nonsense.
It’s not ok to spin even with your own wife publicly, because it looks like cheap imitation of Krishna.
Radhanath Swami’s disciple Parabhakti Das invited gaudiya math gurus to iskcon italy, Villa Vrindavana for multiple days to give class and do kirtan for the iskcon devotees there.
Puri Maharaj performs kirtan in iskcon property
This is the spineless fool promoting this concert, Brajapati Das, most probably an hindu, bringing his dirty indian bollywood culture to iskcon selling Prabhupada’s values for some money.
this is his face here ,Brajapati Das
BTW you are now allowed to wear blue colored clothes while the deities are giving darshan (nectar of devotion)!! But someone who has not read enough of Prabhupada’s books will do anything!
If a modernized temple president like Savasa Das lets Rombhoru Dasi give class from the vyasasana, (she is the one who brutally divorced Prithu prabhu)
Savasa Das invites divorcing lady Urmila Dasi (sept 1999) (see her divorce papers here). She is a big feminist and female diskha guru aspirant.
Savasa Das invites Sura Das who while giving bhagavatam class openly calls Jayadvaita Swami a rascal…then…what more can we expect from Savasa Das
So why should we be surprised that they call Bappi Lahiri
They is not the first time they’ve sold Iskcon’s soul. See my old exposé here where they invited some useless karmi female singer in the past.
I guess they picked this nonsense up from iskcon juhu who also hosted karmi concert on iskcon property
Mumbai got very shiner when many shining stars from Bollywood and Television were seen together at the Dadasaheb Phalke Excellence Awards 2016. The Dadasaheb Phalke excellence Award recognises the contribution of film personalities towards the development of Indian Cinema. Dadasaheb Phalke excellence Award is given to a film personality for their outstanding contribution to the growth and development of Indian Cinema.
The event held at ISKCON, Juhu on 24th April, saw the presence of who’s who from Bollywood and Television Industry comprising of a lot of celebs.
Deviant Parabhakti Das(Radhanath Swami disciple) invited a Dirty Sahajiya Baul to hold a concert on iskcon grounds, in Villa Vrindavana(Iskcon-Italy).
This is no the first time has invited Mayavadis to speak in Iskcon property. He has a good record for this philosophically deviant behavior.
Now the concert by the BaulSahajiya is canceled. But why was an outsider invited to give concert in Villa Vrindavana in the first place? Are all devotees in Europe dead?
The reason some devotees are doubting Bhakti Tirtha Swami’s authenticity is because they are intelligent and can realize that he is not an authentic Vaishnava, what to speak of an authentic Gaudiya Vaishnava.
Practically nothing in his books is presented with even a shred of supporting evidence. Bhakti-Tirtha Swami claims to have knowledge of all these things because he “accesses higher dimensions.” This is bogus. Genuine Vaishnavas have only these methods of acquiring right knowledge: guru, sadhu, and sastra.
some bts fanatic said:I fail to realise why some wish to discredit Maharaja in such a way in light of his considerable achievements.
Srila Prabhupada taught that the Guru carries his authority form the fact that he doesn’t deviate from the teachings of the previous acharyas. Further he explains that devotees have a system of checking spiritual teachings against three sources (guru, sadhu and shastra) to test the teachings authenticity.
Now in the case of Bhakti Tirtha Swami, he manufactured teachings about aliens, lost continents, etc., from his imagination and then claimed that he received this knowledge through psychically linking to higher dimensions. He admits that what he teaches isn’t found in shastra, nor from his gurus teachings, nor from the teachings of the assembly of sadhus, but that doesn’t matter. Why? Because he has a direct psychic link to higher dimensional teachers that no one can verify or question.
Now what does this mean for his disciples? They are in a position where they can no longer verify their gurus teachings against guru, sadhu and shastra. There is absolutely no way for them to judge these nonsensical teachings, and as a result they blindly follow them on the strength of the guru’s charisma and the gurus personality cult. This was the same thing about Kirtanananda. He made insane deviations from Prabhupada’s teachings and then claimed immunity on the strength that he was a pure devotee not subject to our judgements, nor under the purview of guru, sadhu and shastra.
Is it any coincidence that Bhakti Tirtha Swami was one of Kirtanananda’s staunch followers and supporters even after he was found to be a criminal and expelled from ISKCON? Perhaps it’s just a coincidence, but there seem to be many lines of comparison between the two in regards to deviating from the teachings of their gurus.
The fact that he heard Krishna’s name at the time of death and went back to Godhead doesn’t make his nonsensical teachings any more true. He is a glorious person because at the end of his life he heard Krishna’s names.
But his disciples continue to print and distribute his teachings which are better off forgotten. It has become a habit in the present times for gurus to push the distribution of thier own books instead of Srila Prabhupada’s books. Add to that the fact that their own books sometimes have little to do with Krishna consciousness and more to do with aliens and motherships.
You say we should leave him alone since he is no longer present and has gone to Krishna. But his offtrack teachings are very much alive, more so than when he was present. Now BTG will try to deify him and Satyaraja is writing a book about his life. ISKCON and the GBC have a duty to uphold Prabhupada’s teachings and standards, but instead they are encouraging those who have deviated and propping them up even after they have left.
Much of this information was made available through contact with a level of cosmic attunement as well as a connection from a previous life.
(from “Spiritual Warrior I” by Bhakti Tirtha Swami Krishnapad)
Actually, all of this information has been available for many years on the internet and in numerous books. The only special connection you need to know this info is an internet connection!
Do a google search for: Skull and bones, Illuminati, New World Order
Where did SP mention this?
Some people who have been abducted have dreams of being raped or of being on a spaceship and ejaculating continuously. These dreams represent their real experiences. The abductors take semen and use it for the continuation of their own race. Humans who have had their seed taken during these experiences later feel pain in the genitals.
read full nonsense of Bhakti Tirtha Swami’s Alien abduction theories which got from, “through contact with a level of cosmic attunement as well as a connection from a previous life”
Apart from the following nothing fully verifiable and strange about his Krishna consciousness was found uptill now…so no comments can be made against him.
Chaturatma: One night there was a darshan with one musician. I never got the understanding whether this was a person coming to Krishna consciousness or
this person was already a devotee. Anyway, this was someone who wanted to
use his western rock and roll guitar style in service to Lord Chaitanya.
Prabhupada was very adamant and the guy kept bringing the point up two or
three times and Prabhupada finally said, “No.” He pointed to a beautiful
picture of the Panchatattva on the wall of his room and said, “You see
Mahaprabhu, kartals and mridanga. That’s all.”
Taken from his own website, https://www.turnontheworld.com/media click to read full TOTALLY KARMI interview
Austin Songwriters Group: Who is your biggest songwriting influence/mentor?
Sankarshan Das: Bob Dylan
Austin Songwriters Group: Who is your favorite songwriter/performer?
Sankarshan Das: Pete Seeger
Austin Songwriters Group: If you were given the opportunity to have any artist (dead or alive) record one of your songs, who would that be and which song?
Sankarshan Das: Bob Dylan singing Global Respiritualization