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Non-iskcon Vrindavana Sahajiya Wants to Ban Use of the Word Rascal!

When asked to read SP’s books the sahajiyas who have not read one like to get angry! I didnt see if he was iskcon or not. Some baba’s follower tries to give his opinion on what is the mood of the acharya without reading his books.

Prashant Mandal Just Because Srila Prabhupda Used Harsh Words Like “Rascal”… That Doesn’t means you have to copy him….

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Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das BrahmachariYou and 1 other manage the membership, moderators, settings and posts for Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra. have u read bhagavat gita as it is ?
SP doesnt use that word, Krsna does it.
so we stop repeating krsna’s words?See more

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Prashant Mandal Oh… Now I see… Sri Krishna Said “Rascalam Asi”. Got your Point dude… And I just Don’t Understand why the Hell there are too many Egoistic People like you are in our Gaudiya Tradition… You’re just Blotting This Wonderful Sampradaya… Bhakti is See more

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Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das BrahmachariYou and 1 other manage the membership, moderators, settings and posts for Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra. Like i said get lost with ur opinions
And u read the books before philosophising? No right. U are not interested in discussing but giving ur liberal views here. Get lost.

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Prashant Mandal Okay… Let me Deal with you With Your Way… 😉..
Why Should i Get lost?? Is Facebook is Your Property? Oh.. Wait.. Mark Zuckerberg is Your Father Right… ??? 😨
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Abhishek Bhardwaj Every Single word used by Srila Prabhupada is Divine and sweet to ears. To devotees “Rascals” means mercy and to others it may be harsh

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Prashant Mandal The thing is… I didn’t said that Prabhupada was Wrong… I Just Said Imitating the Spiritual Master Is Not Right… Abhishek Bhardwaj

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Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das BrahmachariYou and 1 other manage the membership, moderators, settings and posts for Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra. This sahajiya doesn’t know that Krishna says namam dushkritino mudha
So mudha means rascal. So that word is to be repeated if we want to speak bhagavat gita. And he wants to argue here.

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Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das BrahmachariYou and 1 other manage the membership, moderators, settings and posts for Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra. Prabhupada translated as rascal. Dont be a better knower of sanskrit than Prabhupada. Get out of my group and goto ur babajis

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Prashant Mandal How Pitty… Prabhupada Shouldn’t Have Given such Higher Knowledge to Lower Mentalists like you peps… 😀

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Prashant Mandal You Even Don’t know What You All Are Reading…

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Prashant Mandal Such Narrow Minded people…

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Prashant Mandal I think That is Why Iskcon is Degrading Day by Day

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Prashant Mandal Just Cuz of arrogant people like you

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Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das BrahmachariYou and 1 other manage the membership, moderators, settings and posts for Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra. You got hurt. ..dont cry
Read Prabhupada’s books and leave them vrindavan dogs

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Sacinandana Swami Caught Getting Massaged by a WOMAN!

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Prabhupada: The woman gives massage?
Revatinandana: Yes. Always advertising, “Beautiful young girls to massage you.”
Dharmadhyaksa: This is open prostitution now. They advertise very, very, very badly.
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Harikesa: What is the Pope doing, then? (laughter)
Prabhupada: He’s another big bogus man. The Pope’s assistant died in the prostitute’s house.
Pusta Krsna: In Paris.
*************************************************************************************Massage location: Kumertau, Russia
Date: Around May-June 2008
Massager Mataji: Krishna Priya Dasi (SNS)

From his intimate dealings with Bhanu Nandini Dasi and his begging of “Radha-bhava” from Guruless mayavadi-sahajiya Ramesh Baba … we have been keepin an eye on this swami and here we go. Caught red handed! His association with Ramesh can be explained off or even his intimacy with Bhanu Nandini Dasi can be just sidelined as “do u have evidence of gross intimacy, no, right?”, sure.
But what about this picture where SNS is clearly caught in the middle of happily getting a massage by a woman. What explanation or coverup can be had for this? I dont know. Maybe Lying Diksha Guru, Prahladananda Swami can cook something up as he did last year with his lies covering up the Bhanu Nandini Dasi scandal.

Original website where the pic’s taken from
http://www.varsana.ru/shri-shachinandana-svami-kumertau-bashkiriya-lila-vilasa/

GBC resolution 1998, warning to harikesha swami
HH Harikesa Swami
To avoid being a target of fault finders and so there is no misunderstanding amongst sincere ISKCON members it is recommended Harikesa Swami arrange for the public release of an informative article regarding his receiving treatment from a female physio-therapist. 

Dirty Bengali Sahajiya Smashed

Joyprakash Bhattacharjee
Joyprakash Bhattacharjee Chant hare Krishna 1000 times no use, chant Radhe Radhe once ..it’s equivalent to chanting Hare Krishna a 1000times or more ..besides Chanting Hare Krishna is not the correct way, either finish the entire mahamantra or do not leave it incomplete, naam apradh takes place and besides Iskcon ha sno copyright of Krishna..do not ever say this..only an ignorant and a polluted soul like you can utter such nonsense
Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das Brahmachari Can you support that using Sp’s purports
No
Joyprakash Bhattacharjee
Joyprakash Bhattacharjee Sp replied Hare Krishna in good faith as Radhe Radhe and hare Krishna gets along well, it has been interpreted by you guys in a negative way..no body dares to demean the Radhe Radhe..even Govind will total you, never say this again!
Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das Brahmachari Our cultural standards are given by Prabhupada and not by you and your habits
We have to keep up Sp’s standards. And not things we pick-up here and there
Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das Brahmachari Beard is not Sp’s standard of cleanliness BTW
You are not a part or Iskcon not attempting to be
Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das Brahmachari This is not a group for such people
Joyprakash Bhattacharjee
Joyprakash Bhattacharjee Manikar das..i do not want to join Iskcon brother ..Krishna is not confined in a particular group or organisation..iskcon is nothing but open display of devotion for Govind , love for Govind needs no tilaka or mala ..i can feel his presence every now See more
Joyprakash Bhattacharjee
Joyprakash Bhattacharjee I am already a life member over 7 years and never visit mayapur..that has become a highly profitable business centre..
Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das Brahmachari if u have your personal thoughts on Krsna Bhakti like, “love for Govind needs no tilaka or mala ”
U have to find another group. not this one. Here we follow what SP gave us. Nothing short of that. TY Haribol!
Manikar Das Brahmachari

Manikar Das Brahmachari anyone with 375$ can become a life member in india. not a big deal.Mayapur iskcon’s shops makes money by selling things. It is not illegal to sell kurtas etc.

Joyprakash Bhattacharjee
Joyprakash Bhattacharjee I am in no group..i am single and would attain my Govind individually and not in a group..the relationship i share with him is purely personal only me and him ..why involve a group? do you let groups of people enter your family ..apono apono bhojoner kotha na kohile jota totha… 6 goswamis said so…selling products is normal ..here they sell their souls ..anyways Haribol ! let us not invade into our thoughts .you want to feel Govind ..i can help you ..that’s a promise..your Iskcon will not help you attain Govind..i can bet on anything !
Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das Brahmachari visit vedabase.com and read more about diksha gurus in iskcon
for your atheistic preaching you are banned from this group.NOD:
He mentions the basic principles as follows: (1) accepting the shelter of the lotus feet of a
bona fide spiritual master, (2) becoming initiated by the spiritual master and learning how to
discharge devotional service from him(3) obeying the orders of the spiritual master with faith
and devotion, (4) following in the footsteps of great äcäryas (teachers) under the direction of
the spiritual master,


The Bhaktivedanta VedaBase covers the spectrum of Vedic knowledge related to the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Sri Krishna, as presented by Srila Prabhupada and previous Vaisnava acaryas, along with realizations and first hand experience of disciples and followers.
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Bhaktivedantainternational SouthAfrica
Bhaktivedantainternational SouthAfrica You talking nonsense, Radhe Radhe!
Manikar Das Brahmachari

Manikar Das Brahmachari Ohh Gaudiya math. That’s institutional sahajiya!This is not a group for your class of deviants.

Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das Brahmachari I blocked this rascal who like his old teachers gave trouble to iskcon and he like a perfect follower is now giving trouble to a fb group of iskcon devotees.
What a demon!
Priya Gupta
Priya Gupta how does it matter to greet with hare krishna or radhe radhe ?? the core idea is of spreading the divine knowledge of spirituality which master praphupada left with all of his disciples and devotees …. approaching to god has different ways thats what srila prabhupad taught us ….its the footsteps of master prabhupad which has to be followed to attain krishna consciousness not how one should greet
Priya Gupta
Priya Gupta to attain the love of krishna is the ultimate purpose of life it does not matter which way to choose for that but yes the footsteps of prabhupad is practical and proven with a guaranteed result and success ….i dont think there is any reason to be offended by just how one greets 🙂
Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das Brahmachari Priya Gupta Mataji Haribol
It’s a minor thing. But it has a big meaning behind it. Culture is not subject to speculation and especially something that is borrowed from people outside the four sampradayas.
It’s an offense because SP hardly spoke of Radha. Even though he was Her greatest devotee. This is not preserving Radha’s sanctity. This is sacrilage.
This Radhe Radhe nonsense is sahajiyavad. This is not what SP taught us. Simple. Why should iskcon members adopt it? Our members are yet to reject illicit sex life and they are eager to do Radhe Radhe, that’s sahajiya.
Priya Gupta
Priya Gupta devotee and spiritual master
Manikar Das Brahmachari
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Janardana Dasa
Janardana Dasa “I have to remove……from ISKCON” This seems to be the mood passed down through the generations Save Yourselves, there is no need to remove anyone form the house in which the entire world can live …eh.
Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das Brahmachari Definitely, we don’t want heretics passing off as respectable devotees in our organization, do we?
Janardana Dasa
Janardana Dasa this protectionist disease has run amok….. chasing anyone away from Krishna is a sin.
Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das Brahmachari According to SP the sahajiya disease has run amok, not chasing away any sahajiya from Iskcon and letting him wallow in his sahajiyvad.
Janardana Dasa
Janardana Dasa When did you get elected to the GBC? Who is your Guru Maharajah?
Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das Brahmachari when did u get elected my boss to ask me who elected me to be GBC?
Did u ask ur guru to ask me who my guru was?
Janardana Dasa
Janardana Dasa Have a blessed day, Haribol! Im the boss of all you clowns.
Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das Brahmachari SO if you set up an inquiry commission upon me, then u are being GBC. So who made you a GBC over me, me who u accuse of being GBC? u follow the logic?or are you too caught up with homosex propaganda to understand the principles of Bhakti ?
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=514501248735745…We must not promote homosex people. nor sahajiyas. Homosex is a thing that common among sahajiyas. So if you have some love for homosex people then i understand why u are hurt when we want to stop sahajiya cultural expressions (at least in iskcon).
Manikar Das Brahmachari
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Janardana Dasa
Janardana Dasa I will pray for you. Pay no attention to everyone else, remove the splinter of false ego from your own soul, and chant in peace. Really, pay no attention to anyone else.
Suresh Vittal
Suresh Vittal Hare Krishna: Hare Krishna
Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das Brahmachari Janardana Dasa I will pray for you to read Speaking Strongly in Srila Prabhupada’s service. As you say pay no attention to everyone else. I will do exactly that by not paying any attention to you. I will also remove the splinter of false ego from my mind which makes me not care about iskcon. And then i will as you say, “chant in peace. Yes, i dont pay attention to self centered people like you who speak of “chanting in peace”.
Manikar Das Brahmachari
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Sacinandana Swami Promotes a Mayavadi

Bhanu Nandini Dasi (Beisa Grozdanić), possibly of Bosnian origin, former muslim, a disciple of Sacinandana Swami (SNS), initiated 2007, organized a kirtan festival in 2009 where Krishna Das, an American Mayavadi singer and disciple of Mayavadi Guru Neem Karoli Baba was the main singer.
This was all done with the full knowledge of SNS.Source: http://www.magicus.info/pr2.php?id=29626
The following is a machine translation.

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KRISHNA DAS PERSONAL SPACE EX-FORMER YU!

Krishna Das is a native New Yorker who has dedicated his life to music and spirituality. Recording albums of traditional Indian chants and songs since 1996. Benefits Western melodic sensibility performing kirtana (meditative music consisting of songs in Sanskrit), but at the same time maintains the traditional base and structure of Indian music. Special guest of the concert was a spiritual teacher Sacinandana Swami who will join Krishna Das in singing sacred songs. In the meantime, you can come in Bizek which is always fun and where you feel at home and even better.

 “Yoga is Music” team, invites you to a spiritual-musical event of the year!

Yoga Is Music Tour 2009 organized tour the world’s leading stars of kirtan – Krishna Das – to be held in

(1) Zagreb

9/17/09 concert in Tvornica in 20h

18:09:09 workshop in CM Pond 18-21h

(2) Split:

20.09.09 Concert in the Navy in the House Poljud 19.30

(3) Sarajevo:

22.09.09 Concert in the House of the Army in 20h

23:09:09 workshop at the Academy of Music in 19h

(4) Belgrade

25.09.09 Concert at the Youth Center in 20h27.09.09 workshop at the Center for Cultural Decontamination in 20h

(5) Novi Sad

26.09.09 Concert at the Youth Theatre in 20h

Krishna Das will run the factory standard repertoire of kirtan (singing dedicated) – will sing mantras in Sanskrit which followed him repeating audience. Given that this is a concert of meditative music will be placed mats for sitting, and visitors are free to bring mats or cushions for sitting meditation. However, the concert will not miss the dance and joy, which are an integral part of kirtan – a spiritual celebration through music. Special guest of the concert was a spiritual teacher Sacinandana Swami who will join Krishna Das in singing sacred songs.

The workshop program at the Center of youth “Pond” will consist of singing Krishna Das on the principle of invocation and response, and he will speak and about his spiritual journey and read from the spiritual literature. The spiritual master Swami Sacinandana lead to meditation “Cathedral of Sound”, and there will be time to talk with participants.

If you are interested in visiting the concert, please contact http://www.yogaismusic.com, the e-mail address yogaismusic@gmail.com or by phone 091 349 07 11

We wish to emphasize that our cultural music project “Yoga Is Music” aims to present the world of kirtan in our region. The tour would be called. Opening of the project, in which we plan to organize monthly workshops kirtan, the Sangha, the spiritual theater, yoga festivals and yoga fairs and thus joint action to present yoga and everything includes yoga.

If we have this seems interesting, please contact us at the above address and phone.

In the hope that you will accept our invitation and visit gig

Your “Yoga Is Music ‘Team Zagreb

Beisa Grozdanić

Coordinator tour

coordinator@yogaismusic.com

Yoga Is Music is a cultural music project that organizes concerts and workshops meditative music (kirtan) in Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Serbia. We are pleased to present the beauty and culture of congregational chanting of giving rise to a unique spiritual experience for all who participate in it.

Krishna Das is a native New Yorker who has dedicated his life to music and spirituality. Recording albums of traditional Indian chants and songs since 1996. Benefits Western melodic sensibility performing kirtana (meditative music consisting of songs in Sanskrit), but at the same time maintains the traditional base and structure of Indian music. More about him can be found on http://www.krishnadas.com/

source https://sites.google.com/a/yogazagreb.com/www/asanesandraeng

To think that Krishna Das the mayavadi singer has any devotion in him towards Krishna is a complete foolishness. A foolishness that this woman and her guru commits.

A devotee never praises mayavadis.

https://old.prabhupadavani.org/main/Walks/MW036.html

Dr. Patel: I studied the Puranian philosophy by Huxley. I think somebody must know, he was very good. He’s stressed bhakti-marga. Huxley, Julius Huxley.

Prabhupada: Well, if he’s a bhakti-marga, then he would not have eulogized Ramakrishna.

Dr. Patel: He is wonderful.

Prabhupada: He has eulogized Ramakrishna.

Dr. Patel: (Hindi.)

Prabhupada: Yes, he has eulogized Ramakrishna, this Huxley. You know that?

Quotes from Prabhupada’s book about Mayavadi’s singing

“…One should not hear the statements of Srimad-Bhagavatam from professional reciters, or else they will not be effective. Quoting from Padma Purana, Sri Sanatana Gosvami has strictly forbidden us to hear about the activities of the Lord and His devotees from the mouths of non-devotees:

avaisnava-mukhodgirnam
putam hari-kathamrtam
sravanam naiva kartavyam
sarpocchistam yatha payah

“One should not hear anything about Krsna from a non-Vaisnava. Milk touched by the lips of a serpent has poisonous effects; similarly, talks about Krsna given by a non-Vaisnava are also poisonous.” One must be a bona fide devotee, and then he can preach and impress devotional service upon his listeners. [SB 6.17.41]
“The transcendental vibration of the Lord’s holy name is completely spiritual. Thus it must be received from spiritual sources and must be chanted after having been heard from a spiritual master. One who hears the chanting of the Hare Krsna mantra must receive it from the spiritual master by aural reception. Srila Sanatana Gosvami has forbidden us to hear the holy name of Krsna chanted by non-Vaisnavas, such as professional actors and singers, for it will have no effect. It is like milk touched by the lips of a serpent, as stated in the Padma Purana:

avaisnava-mukhodgirnam putam hari-kathamrtam
sravanam naiva kartavyam sarpocchistam yatha payah”
[Anti-lila, Caitanya Caritamtra 1.101]
“avaisnava-mukhodgirnam putam hari-kathamrtam
sravanam naiva kartavyam sarpocchistam yatha payah
(Padma Purana)

“One should not hear anything about Krsna from a non-Vaisnava. Milk touched by the lips of a serpent has poisonous effects; similarly, talks about Krsna given by a non-Vaisnava are also poisonous.”
Unless one is a fully unalloyed devotee of the Lord, one should not try to describe the pastimes of Krsna in poetry, for it will be only mundane. There are many descriptions of Krsna’s Bhagavad-gita written by persons whose consciousness is mundane and who are not qualified by pure devotion. Although they attempted to write transcendental literature, they could not fully engage even a single devotee in Krsna’s service. Such literature is mundane, and therefore, as warned by Sri Sanatana Gosvami, one should not touch it.” [Antiya-lila CC1.211]

“avaisnava-mukhodgirnam putam hari-kathamrtam
sravanam naiva kartavyam sarpocchistam yatha payah

“No one should hear or take lessons from a person who is not a Vaisnava. Even if he speaks about Krsna, such a lesson should not be accepted, for it is like milk touched by the lips of a serpent.” Nowadays it is fashionable to observe Bhagavata-saptaha and hear Srimad-Bhagavatam from persons who are anything but advanced devotees or self-realized souls. There are even many Mayavadis who read Srimad-Bhagavatam to throngs of people. Many Mayavadis have recently begun reciting Srimad-Bhagavatam in Vrndavana, and because they can present the Bhagavatam with word jugglery, twisting the meaning by grammatical tricks, materialistic persons who go to Vrndavana as a matter of spiritual fashion like to hear them. All this is clearly forbidden by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. We should note carefully that since these Mayavadis cannot personally know the meaning of Srimad-Bhagavatam, they can never deliver others by reciting it. On the other hand, an advanced devotee of the Lord is free from material bondage. He personifies Srimad-Bhagavatam in life and action. Therefore we advise that anyone who wants to learn Srimad-Bhagavatam must approach such a realized soul.” [Antya 13.114]
“One should not accept messages from the professional men, as one should not accept milk touched by the tongue of a serpent. Milk is good, but as soon as it is touched by the snake it becomes poisonous. The acarya, therefore, is not a mercenary order-supplier like the professional reciter of scriptures.” [Light of the Bhagavata,pg33]
“We are talking about Krsna, reading about Krsna, reading Krsna’s instruction in the Bhagavad-gita or reading Krsna’s glories in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. They are all kirtana. It is not that simply when we sing with musical instruments, that is kirtana. No. Anything you talk about Krsna, that is kirtan.” [Srila Prabhupada, Nairobi, October 27, 1975]
“We shall stick only to the Vaisnava standard set for us by the great acaryas and saintly persons, namely, the Hare Krishna Mantra and other mantras which I have taught to you, but we shall not produce something artificial by writing and playing our own songs as we like.” [Letter to: Aksoja 1,–Los Angeles,25 June, 1972]

aham ca gayams tad-vidvan
stribhih parivrto gatah
jnatva visva-srjas tan me
helanam sepur ojasa
yahi tvam sudratam asu
nasta-srih krta-helanah

TRANSLATION Narada Muni continued: Being invited to that festival, I also joined, and, surrounded by women, I began musically singing the glories of the demigods. Because of this, the prajapatis, the great demigods in charge of the affairs of the universe, forcefully cursed me with these words: “Because you have committed an offense, may you immediately become a sudra, devoid of beauty.”
PURPORT As far as kirtana is concerned, the sastras say, sravanam kirtanam visnoh: [SB 7.5.23] one should chant the glories of the Supreme Lord and the holy name of the Supreme Lord. This is clearly stated. Sravanam kirtanam visnoh: one should chant about and glorify Lord Visnu, not any demigod. Unfortunately, there are foolish persons who invent some process of kirtana on the basis of a demigod’s name. This is an offense. Kirtana means glorifying the Supreme Lord, not any demigod. Sometimes people invent kali-kirtana or siva-kirtana, and even big sannyasis in the Mayavada school say that one may chant any name and still get the same result. But here we find that millions and millions of years ago, when Narada Muni was a Gandharva, he neglected the order to glorify the Lord, and being mad in the association of women, he began to chant otherwise. Thus he was cursed to become a sudra. His first offense was that he went to join the sankirtana party in the company of lusty women, and another offense was that he considered ordinary songs, like cinema songs and other such songs, to be equal to sankirtana. For this offense he was punished with becoming a sudra. SB 7.15.73
Such transcendental relationships with the Supreme Lord cannot be manufactured by the mental concoctions of pseudo-devotees. In Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu (1.2.101) Rupa Gosvami has stated that devotional service that makes no reference to Vedic scriptures or Vedic literatures and that does not follow the principles set forth therein can never be approved. Sri Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Maharaja has also remarked that professional spiritual masters, professional Bhagavatam reciters, professional kirtana performers and those engaged in self-concocted devotional service cannot be accepted. In India there are various professional communities known as Aula, Vaula, Kartabhaja, Neda Daravesa, Snai, Atibadi, Cudadhari, and Gauranganagari. A member of the Ventor Gosvami Society, or the caste called gosvami, cannot be accepted as a descendant of the six original Gosvamis. Nor can so-called devotees who manufacture songs about Lord Caitanya, nor those who are professional priests or paid reciters, be accepted. One who does not follow the principles of pancaratra, or one who is an impersonalist or addicted to sex life, cannot be compared with those who have dedicated their lives to the service of Krsna. A pure devotee who is always engaged in Krsna consciousness can sacrifice everything for the service of the Lord. One who has dedicated his life to the service of Lord Caitanya, Krsna and the spiritual master, or a person who is following the principles of householder life, as well as one following the principles of the renounced life in the order of Caitanya Mahaprabhu, is a devotee and cannot be compared to professional men. [Srila Prabhupada,TLC, 29]
“The chanting process offered by Lord Caitanya for achieving love of God is called sankirtana. Sankirtana is a Sanskrit word. Sam means samyak-“complete.” And kirtana means “glorifying” or “describing.” So complete description means complete glorification of the Supreme, or the Supreme Complete Whole. It is not that one can describe anything or glorify anything and that will be kirtana. From the grammatical point of view that may be kirtana, but according to the Vedic system, kirtana means describing the supreme authority, the Absolute Truth, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. That is called kirtana.” [SSR.5]
“No other kirtana is recommended. This hari-kirtana was started five hundred years ago in Bengal by Lord Caitanya. In Bengal there is competition between the Vaisnavas and the saktas. The saktas have introduced a certain type of kirtana called kali-kirtana. But in the Vedic scriptures there is no recommendation of kali-kirtana. Kirtana means hari-kirtana. One cannot say, “Oh, you are Vaisnava. You can perform hari-kirtana. I shall perform siva-kirtana or devi-kirtana or ganesa-kirtana.” No. The Vedic scriptures do not authorize any kirtana other than hari-kirtana. Kirtana means hari-kirtana, the glorification of Krsna.” [SSR,5]
“When the Mayavadis pretend to perform kirtana or hold discourses on the Bhagavatam for personal name and fame, they may sing and talk about Brahman, Caitanya, and Paramatma, but they cannot utter Lord Krsna’s name. Although the words sri bhagavan uvaca (“the Supreme Personality of Godhead said”) appear throughout the Bhagavad-gita, the Mayavadis are prepared to say everything else except the name of Krsna. It is a well known scriptural truth that the words Brahman and Paramatma refer ultimately to Lord Krsna and that Krsna is the principle name of the Supreme Absolute Person. But even when the Mayavadis chant such names of God as Krsna, Govinda, or Hari, they do so not with the understanding and faith that these names are God’s principal names and that they are nondifferent from the Supreme Lord, but rather with the idea that chanting them is a temporary means of sadhana, or spiritual practice. They also do not admit that such chanting of the holy name is an offence. Of course, their biggest offence is to distinguish between Lord Krsna and His form. Thus in the Gita (9.11), Lord Krsna Himself condemns these offenders:

avajananti mam mudha
manusim tanum asritam
param bhavam ajananto
mama bhuta-mahesvaram

Fools deride Me when I descend in the human form. They do not know My transcendental nature as the Supreme Lord of all that be. Let us study how Dr. Radhakrishnan has translated this verse, which appears on page 242 of his book: “The deluded despise Me clad in human body, not knowing My higher nature as Lord of all existences.” In other words, when the person who is “Lord of all existences” is “clad in human body,” those who see from a materialistic perspective take Him for an ordinary mortal, while those who see from a spiritual perspective understand that He is the Supreme Being, the cause of all causes. So if it is the deluded who despise Lord Krsna, then is it not time for Dr. Radhakrishnan himself to admit that he is guilty of this crime? Let him realize how he has abused the “Lord of all existences,” equating Him with a mere mortal. When we see how such big scholars are inimical toward Lord Krsna, we can conclude, following the Gita, that their intelligence has been stolen by maya.[Renunciation Through Wisdom, Ch4]
“The Mayavadis think that everyone is God; they say, “The demigods are God, I am God, you are God.” Therefore they say one can chant any name and become liberated. In Bengal it is very popular to hold a kali-kirtana. A party of people meet and chant, “Kali! Kali! Kali!” or the names of so many so-called avataras. One rascal added his wife’s name to the chanting, and his foolish followers accepted it. In this way Mayavadi philosophers are leading their followers straight to hell. Caitanya Mahaprabhu has therefore strongly warned against hearing from the Mayavadi philosophers, lest one’s spiritual life be spoiled and the path of devotional service blocked. We should always remember this when there is any question of chanting other names. We should chant the holy name of Visnu, the holy name of Krsna-no one else’s name.” [Second Chance, Ch15]

Conclusion:

A mayavadi Krishna Das is being called a devotee by Sacinandana Swami and his followers. What does that tell you about the SNS’s understanding of vaishnava siddhanta? Try not to be the moron that the sweet Hridayananda Goswami describes iskcon members to be and try and think about it. Hariboool!

Krishna Das With a Girl On His Lap

eo to’ eka kalir celā Here is just another disciple of Kali-yuga. sahaja-bhajan korchena māmu,
sańge lo’ye parer bālā He engages in sahaja-bhajan (so-called “easy bhakti”), but does so by posing as “uncle” to the children of others, and then stealthily taking the illicit association of their daughters.

This is the same Krishna Das, the man who says that, there is no person behind the name Krishna. This creature is seen here in this video doing god knows what! This person has been mentioned in the book The Yoga Of Kirtan by Satyraja das (steve rosen). Here is what Rosen says in another article,
“Little more than a decade ago, few were aware of the virtues of kirtan, even in the yoga community. Today, kirtan events attract yogis and non-yogis alike. Normal, everyday people chill out by listening to kirtan CDs and popular music artists sample kirtan performances on their disks. Krishna Das, whom Yoga Journal once dubbed “The Pavarotti of Kirtan,” and Jai Uttal, an extremely gifted kirtan singer, are arguably the most popular of the genre.”


http://wisdom-magazine.com/Article.aspx/639/

Krishna dasa: “I once said to my Indian father, Mr. Tewari, I said, “Who is greater, Shiva or Vishnu?” You know, I thought it was a reasonable question (laughter) in some spheres. He looked at me like I was crazy. He said “My boy,” he said, “you can’t, how can you compare infinites?” Right. (laughter) It don’t work. There’re all the same. You know. Sometimes you like pasta with tomato sauce, sometimes with pesto. Same shit. (big laughs) No matter. Not at all.”

But these people Krishna das and Jai Uttal are not singing Krishna kirtan, they are signing mundane sounds which are rendered poisonous because of the singers being mayavadis.

avaiṣṇava-mukhodgīrṇaṁ pūtaṁ hari-kathāmṛtam
śravaṇaṁ naiva kartavyaṁ sarpocchiṣṭaṁ yathā payaḥ
(Padma Purāṇa)

 

“greatest hits of kali yuga” viz. a song that has become famous in the age of kaliyuga. It has nothing to do with krishna prema or bhakti.

This book eulogies without discrimination all persons who sing Krishna’s names be they mayavadis, sahajiyas, sensualists or even bonafide devotees of iskcon. This is nirvishesha vad that the author Steve Rosen indulges in.
Kirtan can be performed by someone who has received the mahamantra from a sampradayik guru.
This can be either initiation or by personally meeting and taking regular siksha as with George Harrison who was indeed a siksha disciple of Prabhupada.
Krishna Das has no sampradayik diksha guru nor has taken regular siksha from a sampradayik guru.
On top he is sensually fallen as we see in the video.
A devotee does not let some young girl sit on his lap and is cavalier about it.
Thus we must avoid his association.

Steve Rosen’s praise of various mayavadis also put a bad light on his own character as a devotee connected to Iskcon.

Ramesh baba the mayavadi

Deena Bandhu Prabhu’s original comment is here

Ramesh Baba does not have a guru linked to any of the four sampradayas and he himself admits that. This is reason enough to not seek his spiritual guidance. There is not need for us to analyze any more on his topic what so ever. If this suffices do not read further. save time and Read SP’s books.

Here is what Ramesh Baba said in the Barsana Eye camp to the Iskcon devotees there. Haribol!!!

जितने लोग हमसे डील करने आएंगे व्हो सब कृष्ण हैं ।

All those people who come to deal with us are all Krishna

उनसे बात करते समय यह याद रखो के यह कृष्ण हैं ।

Whilst conversing with them remember that this is Krishna

हम कृष्ण से बात करहें  हैं।

We are all talking with Krishnas

हम  कृष्ण की सेवा करहें  हैं।

We are all serving Krishnas

यह अगर भाव रखोगे तो तुमे जो फायदा होगा उसको सोच नहीं सकते।

If you keep this Bhava (consciousness) then you won’t be able to measure your gain

Why is Ramesh Baba a mayavadi?

He does not have a siksha or a diksha guru coming from the uncorrupted sections of the 4
sampradayas that is to say Iskcon. (Why should i promote any other bona fide spiritual organization – charity begins at home)
He has confessed that he has no guru.
He claims that here
सेवा करने से पहले सब लोग सोच लोपक्की तौर से सोच लो कि जितने रोगी हैं यह सब कृष्ण
हैं।
“Before serving (at the eye-camp), everyone should contemplate, should firmly
understand all these diseased patients are actually Krsna.”
Prabhupada says, “Lord Viṣṇu cannot be placed within the category of the demigods.”
But Ramesh Baba places Him in the category of ordinary Indian village folk.
“To misconceive Lord Viṣṇu to have a material body or to equate Him with the
demigods is the most offensive blasphemy against Lord Viṣṇu, and offenders
against the lotus feet of Lord Viṣṇu cannot advance in spiritual knowledge.
They are called māyayāpahṛta-jñāna, or those whose knowledge has been stolen by
the influence of illusion.”
So now we are to call him, Ramesh Baba a devotee?

Let us understand succinctly what is brahminical culture and how is it different from
mayavada

Q. Does Ramesh Baba chant Krishna names?
A. Yes, so do the Satya Sai Baba folk. All mayavadis in india have their chants
and they all get up in the morning and finish their ‘rounds’. But they are aparadhis and non devotees notwithstanding the fact they recite Bhaja Govindam daily. All Sankara mayavadis love to recite Bhaj Govindam, Pandurangaastakam or (Sankara’s version) Guruvastakam even. But their concept of guru is that of a ladder – take the ladder to climb to brahman and then throw away the ladder. So their guru puja is cheating nonsense.
Q. But Ramesh Baba worships a Radha Krishna form?
A. Yes, so do many mayavadis in India and they have been for centuries.
Q. Does Ramesh Baba like Barsana?
A. Yes, he does. Anyone can love a spiritual place. This is no guarantee of his non-mayavad non-sahajiya status. It is a very human tendency to love a place where one has some material emotional attachments. sva-dhīḥ kalatrādiṣu bhauma ijya-dhīḥ
Q. Does Ramesh Baba want to protect many cows and take care of them nicely?
A. Yes, this does not mean that he is a sampradayik, bona fide vaishnava. The demigods
arrived at Vashistha’s ashrama when he knowingly killed a cow and still the
demigods are called impure devotees. In Vedic culture all people love cows. It
is just non-specific-vaishnava culture viz., the brahminical culture that even
the mayavadis follow.
Q. But he is a sweet person who never does anything bad?
A. So was Sankara and all of his disciples and all the mayavadi gurus, Ammas, Babas,
Bappas, Babus, they are very sweet and charming people which you will get to know if you are so cursed to interact with
them.Q. Ramesh Baba wants to clean the Yamuna river, which is the most spiritually potent river in existence What about that?A. That is good. He is still not exempt from the injunction: “Similarly, we can offer many services with our bodily activities. But all such activities must be in relationship with Kṛṣṇa. This relationship is established by connecting oneself with the bona fide spiritual master, who is the direct representative of Kṛṣṇa in disciplic succession. Therefore, the execution of Kṛṣṇa conscious activities with the body should be directed by the spiritual master and then performed with faith. The connection with the spiritual master is called initiation. From the date of initiation by the spiritual master, the connection between Kṛṣṇa and a person cultivating Kṛṣṇa consciousness is established. Without initiation by a bona fide spiritual master, the actual connection with Kṛṣṇa consciousness is never performed.” (NOD Introduction).Q. What about him regularly helping iskcon devotees in vrindavan?

A. For that we are grateful. A person may like to help iskcon devotees this is purifying but in Ramesh Baba’s case is not done enough times to attract the mercy of a bonafide diksha guru so far.Ramesh Baba has no diskha or siksha guru coming from the four bonafide sampradayas. End of argument.

Thus he is unfit to take spiritual instructions from or hear Harinaam from.

avaiṣṇava-mukhodgīrṇaṁ pūtaṁ hari-kathāmṛtam śravaṇaṁ naiva kartavyaṁ sarpocchiṣṭaṁ yathā payaḥ (Padma Purāṇa)

One should not hear anything about Kṛṣṇa from a non-Vaiṣṇava. Milk touched by the lips of a serpent has poisonous effects; similarly, talks about Kṛṣṇa given by a non-Vaiṣṇava are also poisonous.” One must be a bona fide devotee, and then he can preach and impress devotional service upon his listeners. SB

Even if tomorrow he comes out and apologies for his mayavadi words still he is a person who no one in existence should associate with for spiritual benefits.

We can discuss with him many practical matters just as we may discuss with an real estate agent or a politician or a plumber helping us in the holy lands but not on spiritual matters.

Why can’t we get these simple facts in our heads?

When iskcon members fail to grasp these essential and easy to understand points

then we have a regretful recourse – to agree with Hridayananda Maharaja when he calls them morons since that is exactly what they are.

All glories to the misapplied intelligence of Hridayananda Maharaja!

It’s not that Sacinandana Swami et al are going to the sahajiya-cum-mayavadi to educate him in the teachings of Prabhupada. That would have been the best thing.

We don’t want to avoid giving association to mayavdis. We want to avoid taking their association.

We don’t want to reject mayavadis when they make submissive inquires from us.

We should absolutely avoid making submissive enquires from them especially on Radharani. What madness is that?

You goto a sahajiya-cum-mayavadi to ask questions about Radharani? What is this? Makes no sense.

Even with fellow iskcon members we generally avoid, not ban but generally avoid, the topics of the gopis or Radharani

And some guru goes out of iskcon and sits on the floor, at the mayavadi-cum-sahajiya’s feet, inquires from him who’s seated on a chair, about “Radharani’s bhava” and the

person on the chair is not initiated into a bonafide sampradaya.

We are not calling Sacinandana Swami a sahajiya, etc.

We are just saying that  he is the type of person who thinks that it is okay to make humble

inquiries about Radharani’s Bhava from Ramesh baba who is a confirmed sahajiya-cum-mayavadi who has no diskha or even a siksha guru from any of the 4 sampradayas.

Sacinandana Swami does not take Ramesh’s shelter alone. He takes about 10 disciples to Ramesh Baba and make them all sit at his feet and do so as well.

So, you please use your head and call Sacinandana Swami what you wish to.

The evidence is present in front of you.

I am also like Hridayananda Maharaj you see, I too am in favor of treating you like an adult as HM says we should do.

So here we are – not name calling but letting you be the adult and understand what is the reality of Sacinandana Swami your self.

Conclusion

Avoid persons like Sacinandana Swami who take instructions from RB on spiritual matters. If you want to consult RB on matters of local vrindavana governmental laws, economics, cow species, land fertility, local mafia etc that is a whole different thing. DON’T TAKE SPIRITUAL ADVISE FROM RB.

Solution

Ramesh Baba is a mayavadi today. It doesn’t mean that we will stay the same forever. The point when he takes initiation into iskcon then we can associate with him. Untill that time comes. No association. Rather we must if we are servants of Prabhupada smash him at every opportunity what to speak of associating with him or asking questions about Radhabhava from him as Sacinandana Swami most incorrectly has done.

 

Strange Sahajiya Things Related to Deena Bandhu Prabhu????

*Did any of our acharyas encourage men to dress up like women and dance in front of the deities?

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Manikar Das Brahmachari The.mata..in yellow is a man or a woman?

 

Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das Brahmachari In one of the pics there’s a man dancing in front of Deena bandhu Prabhu WEARING A SAREE!!!… and Deena bandhu pr feels it’s ok to be photographed with him?
What is going on there?
Is this an iskcon venue?
I saw there men dressed in sarees!!!!
Someone reported
” Hey, that’s Khanai Chandra Prabhu (JPS)…one of our long-time cooks at the Krishna-Hall Pandal Kitchen!” So the man in the beige SAREE is an iskcon devotee, jaypataka Swami disciple….

If this is not an official iskcon venue then why are the devotees being led there by Deena Bandhu Prabhu?
None of the men performing bhishek wear our tilak?
What is their sampradaya?
Why does Deena Bandhu Prabhu think it’s ok to photograph and upload the photos of full sahajiyas dressed as women?
Not only that he is captioning those pics with “dancing for Lalita Sakhi”!!!!

Are others also finding this extremely strange or am I the only person missing out on the “sriji bhava”?.

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just have a look, tell me if this is ok for you?
it is not a concern “against him”. just being straight forward here. why would any devotee one take a pic of a man dressed as a woman and put a nice caption under it? as if it was ok?
no hate, no attack, just simple questions.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155162165054838&set=a.10155162163824838.1073741881.787814837&type=3&theater

Deena Bandhu DasFollow

Dancing for Lalita Sakhi!

 

Manikar Das Brahmachari
Manikar Das Brahmachari “Dancing for Lalita Sakhi!” is it ok to put such a caption under a pic of two men dressed as women?

Deena Bandhu prabhu writes “whirling”

and twirling. what strange nonsense is this ?

this is a man BTW

This is an eka-tara guitar. Eka tara instrument is a typical instrument used by Bauls and other sahajiya. Why is Deena Bandhu Prabhu taking iskcon devotees to hardcore non sampradayik sahajiyas and making them sit there while they sing some spiritual song using their sahajiya mouth ? Why can’t deena bandhu prabhu see the difference between a bonafide devotee from the 4 sampradayas and these nonsense sahajiya people from the dhams? Is just staying in the dham make you a part of the 4 sampradayas? Is dham birth above initiation?

Bhāgavata Purāṇa Dāsa Hey, that’s Khanai Chandra Prabhu (JPS)…one of our long-time cooks at the Krishna-Hall Pandal Kitchen!

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more men dressed as women dancing and Deena Bandhu prabhu happily uploads this photo

The man wearing a green saree is deena bandhu prabhu’s “friend”.

My friend Anurag (in the green) dancing and singing for Lalita’s Appearance!