When asked to read SP’s books the sahajiyas who have not read one like to get angry! I didnt see if he was iskcon or not. Some baba’s follower tries to give his opinion on what is the mood of the acharya without reading his books.
Prabhupada: The woman gives massage?
Revatinandana: Yes. Always advertising, “Beautiful young girls to massage you.”
Dharmadhyaksa: This is open prostitution now. They advertise very, very, very badly.
Harikesa: What is the Pope doing, then? (laughter)
Prabhupada: He’s another big bogus man. The Pope’s assistant died in the prostitute’s house.
Pusta Krsna: In Paris.
*************************************************************************************Massage location: Kumertau, Russia
Date: Around May-June 2008
Massager Mataji: Krishna Priya Dasi (SNS)
From his intimate dealings with Bhanu Nandini Dasi and his begging of “Radha-bhava” from Guruless mayavadi-sahajiya Ramesh Baba … we have been keepin an eye on this swami and here we go. Caught red handed! His association with Ramesh can be explained off or even his intimacy with Bhanu Nandini Dasi can be just sidelined as “do u have evidence of gross intimacy, no, right?”, sure.
But what about this picture where SNS is clearly caught in the middle of happily getting a massage by a woman. What explanation or coverup can be had for this? I dont know. Maybe Lying Diksha Guru, Prahladananda Swami can cook something up as he did last year with his lies covering up the Bhanu Nandini Dasi scandal.
Original website where the pic’s taken from
GBC resolution 1998, warning to harikesha swami
HH Harikesa Swami
To avoid being a target of fault finders and so there is no misunderstanding amongst sincere ISKCON members it is recommended Harikesa Swami arrange for the public release of an informative article regarding his receiving treatment from a female physio-therapist.
This a group of sahajiyas, unchaste women and deena bandhu and Panca Gauda Das seem not to mind participating in their nonsense kirtans
Varsana Swami supports pushya abhishek even though it is a nonsense concoction. What is his understanding is bhakti if he believes in such fraud inventions?
This was all done with the full knowledge of SNS.Source: http://www.magicus.info/pr2.php?id=29626
The following is a machine translation.
Enrolled: gemini1 Category: Religion
KRISHNA DAS PERSONAL SPACE EX-FORMER YU!
Krishna Das is a native New Yorker who has dedicated his life to music and spirituality. Recording albums of traditional Indian chants and songs since 1996. Benefits Western melodic sensibility performing kirtana (meditative music consisting of songs in Sanskrit), but at the same time maintains the traditional base and structure of Indian music. Special guest of the concert was a spiritual teacher Sacinandana Swami who will join Krishna Das in singing sacred songs. In the meantime, you can come in Bizek which is always fun and where you feel at home and even better.
“Yoga is Music” team, invites you to a spiritual-musical event of the year!
Yoga Is Music Tour 2009 organized tour the world’s leading stars of kirtan – Krishna Das – to be held in
9/17/09 concert in Tvornica in 20h
18:09:09 workshop in CM Pond 18-21h
20.09.09 Concert in the Navy in the House Poljud 19.30
22.09.09 Concert in the House of the Army in 20h
23:09:09 workshop at the Academy of Music in 19h
25.09.09 Concert at the Youth Center in 20h27.09.09 workshop at the Center for Cultural Decontamination in 20h
(5) Novi Sad
26.09.09 Concert at the Youth Theatre in 20h
Krishna Das will run the factory standard repertoire of kirtan (singing dedicated) – will sing mantras in Sanskrit which followed him repeating audience. Given that this is a concert of meditative music will be placed mats for sitting, and visitors are free to bring mats or cushions for sitting meditation. However, the concert will not miss the dance and joy, which are an integral part of kirtan – a spiritual celebration through music. Special guest of the concert was a spiritual teacher Sacinandana Swami who will join Krishna Das in singing sacred songs.
The workshop program at the Center of youth “Pond” will consist of singing Krishna Das on the principle of invocation and response, and he will speak and about his spiritual journey and read from the spiritual literature. The spiritual master Swami Sacinandana lead to meditation “Cathedral of Sound”, and there will be time to talk with participants.
We wish to emphasize that our cultural music project “Yoga Is Music” aims to present the world of kirtan in our region. The tour would be called. Opening of the project, in which we plan to organize monthly workshops kirtan, the Sangha, the spiritual theater, yoga festivals and yoga fairs and thus joint action to present yoga and everything includes yoga.
If we have this seems interesting, please contact us at the above address and phone.
In the hope that you will accept our invitation and visit gig
Your “Yoga Is Music ‘Team Zagreb
Yoga Is Music is a cultural music project that organizes concerts and workshops meditative music (kirtan) in Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Serbia. We are pleased to present the beauty and culture of congregational chanting of giving rise to a unique spiritual experience for all who participate in it.
Krishna Das is a native New Yorker who has dedicated his life to music and spirituality. Recording albums of traditional Indian chants and songs since 1996. Benefits Western melodic sensibility performing kirtana (meditative music consisting of songs in Sanskrit), but at the same time maintains the traditional base and structure of Indian music. More about him can be found on http://www.krishnadas.com/
To think that Krishna Das the mayavadi singer has any devotion in him towards Krishna is a complete foolishness. A foolishness that this woman and her guru commits.
A devotee never praises mayavadis.
Dr. Patel: I studied the Puranian philosophy by Huxley. I think somebody must know, he was very good. He’s stressed bhakti-marga. Huxley, Julius Huxley.
Prabhupada: Well, if he’s a bhakti-marga, then he would not have eulogized Ramakrishna.
Dr. Patel: He is wonderful.
Prabhupada: He has eulogized Ramakrishna.
Dr. Patel: (Hindi.)
Prabhupada: Yes, he has eulogized Ramakrishna, this Huxley. You know that?
Quotes from Prabhupada’s book about Mayavadi’s singing
sravanam naiva kartavyam
sarpocchistam yatha payah
avaisnava-mukhodgirnam putam hari-kathamrtam
sravanam naiva kartavyam sarpocchistam yatha payah”
[Anti-lila, Caitanya Caritamtra 1.101]
“avaisnava-mukhodgirnam putam hari-kathamrtam
sravanam naiva kartavyam sarpocchistam yatha payah
“avaisnava-mukhodgirnam putam hari-kathamrtam
sravanam naiva kartavyam sarpocchistam yatha payah
aham ca gayams tad-vidvan
stribhih parivrto gatah
jnatva visva-srjas tan me
helanam sepur ojasa
yahi tvam sudratam asu
avajananti mam mudha
manusim tanum asritam
param bhavam ajananto
A mayavadi Krishna Das is being called a devotee by Sacinandana Swami and his followers. What does that tell you about the SNS’s understanding of vaishnava siddhanta? Try not to be the moron that the sweet Hridayananda Goswami describes iskcon members to be and try and think about it. Hariboool!
sańge lo’ye parer bālā He engages in sahaja-bhajan (so-called “easy bhakti”), but does so by posing as “uncle” to the children of others, and then stealthily taking the illicit association of their daughters.
This is the same Krishna Das, the man who says that, there is no person behind the name Krishna. This creature is seen here in this video doing god knows what! This person has been mentioned in the book The Yoga Of Kirtan by Satyraja das (steve rosen). Here is what Rosen says in another article,
“Little more than a decade ago, few were aware of the virtues of kirtan, even in the yoga community. Today, kirtan events attract yogis and non-yogis alike. Normal, everyday people chill out by listening to kirtan CDs and popular music artists sample kirtan performances on their disks. Krishna Das, whom Yoga Journal once dubbed “The Pavarotti of Kirtan,” and Jai Uttal, an extremely gifted kirtan singer, are arguably the most popular of the genre.”
Krishna dasa: “I once said to my Indian father, Mr. Tewari, I said, “Who is greater, Shiva or Vishnu?” You know, I thought it was a reasonable question (laughter) in some spheres. He looked at me like I was crazy. He said “My boy,” he said, “you can’t, how can you compare infinites?” Right. (laughter) It don’t work. There’re all the same. You know. Sometimes you like pasta with tomato sauce, sometimes with pesto. Same shit. (big laughs) No matter. Not at all.”
But these people Krishna das and Jai Uttal are not singing Krishna kirtan, they are signing mundane sounds which are rendered poisonous because of the singers being mayavadis.
avaiṣṇava-mukhodgīrṇaṁ pūtaṁ hari-kathāmṛtam
śravaṇaṁ naiva kartavyaṁ sarpocchiṣṭaṁ yathā payaḥ
This book eulogies without discrimination all persons who sing Krishna’s names be they mayavadis, sahajiyas, sensualists or even bonafide devotees of iskcon. This is nirvishesha vad that the author Steve Rosen indulges in.
Kirtan can be performed by someone who has received the mahamantra from a sampradayik guru.
This can be either initiation or by personally meeting and taking regular siksha as with George Harrison who was indeed a siksha disciple of Prabhupada.
Krishna Das has no sampradayik diksha guru nor has taken regular siksha from a sampradayik guru.
On top he is sensually fallen as we see in the video.
A devotee does not let some young girl sit on his lap and is cavalier about it.
Thus we must avoid his association.
Steve Rosen’s praise of various mayavadis also put a bad light on his own character as a devotee connected to Iskcon.
Ramesh Baba does not have a guru linked to any of the four sampradayas and he himself admits that. This is reason enough to not seek his spiritual guidance. There is not need for us to analyze any more on his topic what so ever. If this suffices do not read further. save time and Read SP’s books.
Here is what Ramesh Baba said in the Barsana Eye camp to the Iskcon devotees there. Haribol!!!
जितने लोग हमसे डील करने आएंगे व्हो सब कृष्ण हैं ।
All those people who come to deal with us are all Krishna
उनसे बात करते समय यह याद रखो के यह कृष्ण हैं ।
Whilst conversing with them remember that this is Krishna
हम कृष्ण से बात करहें हैं।
We are all talking with Krishnas
हम कृष्ण की सेवा करहें हैं।
We are all serving Krishnas
यह अगर भाव रखोगे तो तुमे जो फायदा होगा उसको सोच नहीं सकते।
If you keep this Bhava (consciousness) then you won’t be able to measure your gain
Why is Ramesh Baba a mayavadi?
sampradayas that is to say Iskcon. (Why should i promote any other bona fide spiritual organization – charity begins at home)
understand all these diseased patients are actually Krsna.”
demigods is the most offensive blasphemy against Lord Viṣṇu, and offenders
against the lotus feet of Lord Viṣṇu cannot advance in spiritual knowledge.
They are called māyayāpahṛta-jñāna, or those whose knowledge has been stolen by
the influence of illusion.”
Let us understand succinctly what is brahminical culture and how is it different from
A. Yes, so do the Satya Sai Baba folk. All mayavadis in india have their chants
and they all get up in the morning and finish their ‘rounds’. But they are aparadhis and non devotees notwithstanding the fact they recite Bhaja Govindam daily. All Sankara mayavadis love to recite Bhaj Govindam, Pandurangaastakam or (Sankara’s version) Guruvastakam even. But their concept of guru is that of a ladder – take the ladder to climb to brahman and then throw away the ladder. So their guru puja is cheating nonsense.
A. Yes, so do many mayavadis in India and they have been for centuries.
arrived at Vashistha’s ashrama when he knowingly killed a cow and still the
demigods are called impure devotees. In Vedic culture all people love cows. It
is just non-specific-vaishnava culture viz., the brahminical culture that even
the mayavadis follow.
Bappas, Babus, they are very sweet and charming people which you will get to know if you are so cursed to interact with
them.Q. Ramesh Baba wants to clean the Yamuna river, which is the most spiritually potent river in existence What about that?A. That is good. He is still not exempt from the injunction: “Similarly, we can offer many services with our bodily activities. But all such activities must be in relationship with Kṛṣṇa. This relationship is established by connecting oneself with the bona fide spiritual master, who is the direct representative of Kṛṣṇa in disciplic succession. Therefore, the execution of Kṛṣṇa conscious activities with the body should be directed by the spiritual master and then performed with faith. The connection with the spiritual master is called initiation. From the date of initiation by the spiritual master, the connection between Kṛṣṇa and a person cultivating Kṛṣṇa consciousness is established. Without initiation by a bona fide spiritual master, the actual connection with Kṛṣṇa consciousness is never performed.” (NOD Introduction).Q. What about him regularly helping iskcon devotees in vrindavan?
A. For that we are grateful. A person may like to help iskcon devotees this is purifying but in Ramesh Baba’s case is not done enough times to attract the mercy of a bonafide diksha guru so far.Ramesh Baba has no diskha or siksha guru coming from the four bonafide sampradayas. End of argument.
Thus he is unfit to take spiritual instructions from or hear Harinaam from.
avaiṣṇava-mukhodgīrṇaṁ pūtaṁ hari-kathāmṛtam śravaṇaṁ naiva kartavyaṁ sarpocchiṣṭaṁ yathā payaḥ (Padma Purāṇa)
One should not hear anything about Kṛṣṇa from a non-Vaiṣṇava. Milk touched by the lips of a serpent has poisonous effects; similarly, talks about Kṛṣṇa given by a non-Vaiṣṇava are also poisonous.” One must be a bona fide devotee, and then he can preach and impress devotional service upon his listeners. SB
Even if tomorrow he comes out and apologies for his mayavadi words still he is a person who no one in existence should associate with for spiritual benefits.
We can discuss with him many practical matters just as we may discuss with an real estate agent or a politician or a plumber helping us in the holy lands but not on spiritual matters.
Why can’t we get these simple facts in our heads?
When iskcon members fail to grasp these essential and easy to understand points
then we have a regretful recourse – to agree with Hridayananda Maharaja when he calls them morons since that is exactly what they are.
All glories to the misapplied intelligence of Hridayananda Maharaja!
It’s not that Sacinandana Swami et al are going to the sahajiya-cum-mayavadi to educate him in the teachings of Prabhupada. That would have been the best thing.
We don’t want to avoid giving association to mayavdis. We want to avoid taking their association.
We don’t want to reject mayavadis when they make submissive inquires from us.
We should absolutely avoid making submissive enquires from them especially on Radharani. What madness is that?
You goto a sahajiya-cum-mayavadi to ask questions about Radharani? What is this? Makes no sense.
Even with fellow iskcon members we generally avoid, not ban but generally avoid, the topics of the gopis or Radharani
And some guru goes out of iskcon and sits on the floor, at the mayavadi-cum-sahajiya’s feet, inquires from him who’s seated on a chair, about “Radharani’s bhava” and the
person on the chair is not initiated into a bonafide sampradaya.
We are not calling Sacinandana Swami a sahajiya, etc.
We are just saying that he is the type of person who thinks that it is okay to make humble
inquiries about Radharani’s Bhava from Ramesh baba who is a confirmed sahajiya-cum-mayavadi who has no diskha or even a siksha guru from any of the 4 sampradayas.
Sacinandana Swami does not take Ramesh’s shelter alone. He takes about 10 disciples to Ramesh Baba and make them all sit at his feet and do so as well.
So, you please use your head and call Sacinandana Swami what you wish to.
The evidence is present in front of you.
I am also like Hridayananda Maharaj you see, I too am in favor of treating you like an adult as HM says we should do.
So here we are – not name calling but letting you be the adult and understand what is the reality of Sacinandana Swami your self.
Avoid persons like Sacinandana Swami who take instructions from RB on spiritual matters. If you want to consult RB on matters of local vrindavana governmental laws, economics, cow species, land fertility, local mafia etc that is a whole different thing. DON’T TAKE SPIRITUAL ADVISE FROM RB.
Ramesh Baba is a mayavadi today. It doesn’t mean that we will stay the same forever. The point when he takes initiation into iskcon then we can associate with him. Untill that time comes. No association. Rather we must if we are servants of Prabhupada smash him at every opportunity what to speak of associating with him or asking questions about Radhabhava from him as Sacinandana Swami most incorrectly has done.
*Did any of our acharyas encourage men to dress up like women and dance in front of the deities?
Are others also finding this extremely strange or am I the only person missing out on the “sriji bhava”?.
Deena Bandhu prabhu writes “whirling”
and twirling. what strange nonsense is this ?
this is a man BTW
This is an eka-tara guitar. Eka tara instrument is a typical instrument used by Bauls and other sahajiya. Why is Deena Bandhu Prabhu taking iskcon devotees to hardcore non sampradayik sahajiyas and making them sit there while they sing some spiritual song using their sahajiya mouth ? Why can’t deena bandhu prabhu see the difference between a bonafide devotee from the 4 sampradayas and these nonsense sahajiya people from the dhams? Is just staying in the dham make you a part of the 4 sampradayas? Is dham birth above initiation?
Bhāgavata Purāṇa Dāsa Hey, that’s Khanai Chandra Prabhu (JPS)…one of our long-time cooks at the Krishna-Hall Pandal Kitchen!
more men dressed as women dancing and Deena Bandhu prabhu happily uploads this photo
The man wearing a green saree is deena bandhu prabhu’s “friend”.
My friend Anurag (in the green) dancing and singing for Lalita’s Appearance!