Kālā Kṛṣṇadāsa was influenced and allured by nomads or gypsies, who enticed him with women. Māyā is so strong that Kālā Kṛṣṇadāsa left Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu’s company to join gypsy women. Even though a person may associate with Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, he can be allured by māyā and leave the Lord’s company due to his slight independence. Only one who is overwhelmed by māyā can be so unfortunate as to leave Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu’s company, yet unless one is very conscientious, the influence of māyā can drag one away, even though he be the personal assistant of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. And what to speak of others? The Bhaṭṭathāris used to increase their numbers by using women to allure outsiders. This is factual evidence showing that it is possible at any time to fall down from the Lord’s association. One need only misuse his little independence. Once fallen and separated from the Supreme Personality of Godhead’s association, one becomes a candidate for suffering in the material world. Although rejected by Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, Kālā Kṛṣṇadāsa was given another chance, as the following verses relate. (https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/madhya/10/65)
(chanakya neeti scholar) Patita pavana Das’s words were so idiotic/cheating I had to expose him.
He is like an uncle to these ladies and as an elder is sharing some familial affection, something ISKCON needs more of. Shrila Prabhupada mentions that pure males and pure females may celebrate sometimes together
Caturatma Das sinful dance with girls is not as horrible as Patita Pavana Das covering his illicit sex!
This is not allowed in vedic culture
This is not fatherly affection
It’s illicit sex
Fathers don’t touch their daughters bodies after a certain age.
Don’t justify illicit sex using “it’s fatherly” nonsense.
No father dances with his daughter in vedic culture
In indradyumna swami’s culture….that’s something else.
PAGE 4:Hanuman dasa, as far as the video of Chaturatma dasa dancing at kirtan with two ladies, I must add that this staunch devotee’s character is far beyond reproach. He is a householder, married faithfully to the same Mataji for decades. He is like an uncle to these ladies and as an elder is sharing some familial affection, something ISKCON needs more of. Shrila Prabhupada mentions that pure males and pure females may celebrate sometimes together, but this should not be taken wrongly by the small-minded. In ISKCON, due to so many fall-downs, there is an all-encompassing tendency towards suspicion. However, as a friend of Chaturatma, I can assure anyone who is interested in my opinion that he is not that guy. Chaturatmata is actually a rare pandit. He knows the lilas of the associates of Mahaprabhu from beginning to end and speaks on their activities with such memory, devotion and commentary that his talks leave me feeling awe-struck.
So you have requested my response and I have given it. I would add that as a footnote it was HH Indradyumna Swami who hustled your spiritual master HH Shridhara Swami out of Canada when he was going into a hepatitis coma and got him safely to Mayapura. I am a little surprised that a disciple of Shridhar Maharaja could resort to such hearsay. From the lilas of the Mahabhagavatas of described in Shri Chaitanya Charitamrita we learn that he Godbrother and associate of Shri Guru is likewise accorded the same respect. Don’t forget, I was locked in a prison cell for weeks with your Guru Maharaja and know His Holiness well, As a close friend of your Guru Maharaja who stood trial alongside for capital murder in corrupt India I can say that he will look with great disdain upon your couched accusations of his dear sannyasi Godbrother. That also will not benefit your spiritual advancement.
Otherwise, I wish you and your service well, and offer my sincere regards to your wife and family,I do hope that this meets you and yours well,, and I beg to remain,
Yours in the seva of the Vaishnavas,
Patita Pavana dasa